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That’s only because you can’t understand that I don’t want a package manager for my package managers. I just want to install the damn software and be done with

by SllX 2y ago

That’s only because you can’t understand that I don’t want a package manager for my package managers. I just want to install the damn software and be done with it; and I’m pretty happy with the way Apple runs the App Store as an iPhone customer, even though I think some of the restrictions are also senseless as viewed through that prism and their developer relations has been a dumpster fire for close to 10 years now. None of that is enough to get me excited about some future great App Store competition.

mvdtnz 2y ago
> I just want to install the damn software and be done with it So use the built-in app store, like you are doing today.
- burnerthrow008 2y ago
  Prey tell, how will I do that when, as has been extensively explained in this thread, every app will be in its own store?
  - mvdtnz 2y ago
    We all know that's not going to happen.
- SllX 2y ago
  If every App I currently use and will want to use in the future continues to be found in the App Store, that’s the plan. The possible future where that plan goes off the rails is if developers start pulling their software off the App Store and stop following Apple’s rules because they can. Right now they can’t while remaining iPhone developers. Like I said, there’s a lot that’s a dumpster fire with developer relations between Apple and App Store developers, but you always know where Apple stands: 1. Apple 2. Apple’s Customers 3. Developers Yeah I’d like them to loosen up some of the restrictions, but it’s still to my advantage as an iPhone customer that developers who choose to develop for iPhones from the smallest to the very largest to even the government are forced to deal with Apple on Apple’s terms to distribute software. Apple’s dumpster fire in developer relations is also only half the story over the last decade; a lot of the largest developers of the most popular apps on the App Store have also been at the forefront of innovating new and creative ways to try and circumvent even the smallest limitations on iPhones leading to Apple spending the better part of the decade coming up with new APIs, new entitlements and new legal contracts walking this tightrope between enabling or keeping enabled useful APIs while also protecting user privacy and security. It’s not an easy task they’ve taken up, and short of the government literally outlawing most of the surveillance-oriented business practices a lot of Apple’s peers engage in (practices which the government also benefits from), this is basically the next best thing.

by SllX 2y ago

mvdtnz 2y ago

> I just want to install the damn software and be done with it So use the built-in app store, like you are doing today.

burnerthrow008 2y ago
Prey tell, how will I do that when, as has been extensively explained in this thread, every app will be in its own store?
- mvdtnz 2y ago
  We all know that's not going to happen.
SllX 2y ago
If every App I currently use and will want to use in the future continues to be found in the App Store, that’s the plan. The possible future where that plan goes off the rails is if developers start pulling their software off the App Store and stop following Apple’s rules because they can. Right now they can’t while remaining iPhone developers. Like I said, there’s a lot that’s a dumpster fire with developer relations between Apple and App Store developers, but you always know where Apple stands: 1. Apple 2. Apple’s Customers 3. Developers Yeah I’d like them to loosen up some of the restrictions, but it’s still to my advantage as an iPhone customer that developers who choose to develop for iPhones from the smallest to the very largest to even the government are forced to deal with Apple on Apple’s terms to distribute software. Apple’s dumpster fire in developer relations is also only half the story over the last decade; a lot of the largest developers of the most popular apps on the App Store have also been at the forefront of innovating new and creative ways to try and circumvent even the smallest limitations on iPhones leading to Apple spending the better part of the decade coming up with new APIs, new entitlements and new legal contracts walking this tightrope between enabling or keeping enabled useful APIs while also protecting user privacy and security. It’s not an easy task they’ve taken up, and short of the government literally outlawing most of the surveillance-oriented business practices a lot of Apple’s peers engage in (practices which the government also benefits from), this is basically the next best thing.