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I am switching family over to Brave. They don’t even notice the difference and I’m more confident the browser will continue to support user centric content filt

I am switching family over to Brave. They don’t even notice the difference and I’m more confident the browser will continue to support user centric content filtering.

capitainenemo 2y ago
Which is fine so long as what they have built into the browser is all you need (and so long as Google does not sabotage those efforts). If ever you might need more such as what uBO offers, though, Brave is also subject to whatever changes Google makes (such as Manifest V3).
WD-42 2y ago
Is that going to help? Brave is still blink. They might have some filtering baked in but I’m not sure if it’s as powerful (or can be) as UBO.
- smallerize 2y ago
  Brave will keep Manifest V2 compatibility as long as they can, specifically focusing on "AdGuard AdBlocker, NoScript, uBlock Origin, and uMatrix". https://brave.com/blog/brave-shields-manifest-v3/ https://brave.com/blog/brave-shields-manifest-v3/
  - WD-42 2y ago
    I guess I'm curious what "as long as they can" actually means. If it means they can't pull upstream Blink without losing v2 support, that's bad. I think Firefox is the only viable solution to continue using UBO at this point.
    - EasyMark 2y ago
      I seem to recall they said as long as it was technically AND economically feasible. It depends on how much google attempts to spread the cancer of mv3 throughout their code base. Eventually brave won’t have the manpower to hack v2 in is the likely result without going bankrupt if google really wants to go down that path.
- xelamonster 2y ago
  I don't think the new manifest rules are because of any actual restriction or the engine, maybe I'm wrong but it was my impression that the change is mostly just Google wanting to control what users can do with their browsers even more (and always in ways that make them profit of course). So they should be able to keep V2 support if they're willing to be on the hook for keeping it maintained themselves.
  - capitainenemo 2y ago
    And if the removal of manifest v2 allows google to abandon/remove/refactor code exposed through it (and google could even be inclined to do so deliberately)? At some point Brave would end up having to maintain its own fork, which they probably don't have the resources to do.

I am switching family over to Brave. They don’t even notice the difference and I’m more confident the browser will continue to support user centric content filtering.

capitainenemo 2y ago

Which is fine so long as what they have built into the browser is all you need (and so long as Google does not sabotage those efforts). If ever you might need more such as what uBO offers, though, Brave is also subject to whatever changes Google makes (such as Manifest V3).

WD-42 2y ago

Is that going to help? Brave is still blink. They might have some filtering baked in but I’m not sure if it’s as powerful (or can be) as UBO.

smallerize 2y ago
Brave will keep Manifest V2 compatibility as long as they can, specifically focusing on "AdGuard AdBlocker, NoScript, uBlock Origin, and uMatrix". https://brave.com/blog/brave-shields-manifest-v3/ https://brave.com/blog/brave-shields-manifest-v3/
- WD-42 2y ago
  I guess I'm curious what "as long as they can" actually means. If it means they can't pull upstream Blink without losing v2 support, that's bad. I think Firefox is the only viable solution to continue using UBO at this point.
  - EasyMark 2y ago
    I seem to recall they said as long as it was technically AND economically feasible. It depends on how much google attempts to spread the cancer of mv3 throughout their code base. Eventually brave won’t have the manpower to hack v2 in is the likely result without going bankrupt if google really wants to go down that path.
xelamonster 2y ago
I don't think the new manifest rules are because of any actual restriction or the engine, maybe I'm wrong but it was my impression that the change is mostly just Google wanting to control what users can do with their browsers even more (and always in ways that make them profit of course). So they should be able to keep V2 support if they're willing to be on the hook for keeping it maintained themselves.
- capitainenemo 2y ago
  And if the removal of manifest v2 allows google to abandon/remove/refactor code exposed through it (and google could even be inclined to do so deliberately)? At some point Brave would end up having to maintain its own fork, which they probably don't have the resources to do.