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> Jazz Mesh is currently free — and it's set up as the default sync & storage peer in Jazz How difficult is it to run my own backend? Edit: > Completely DIY

by pshc 2y ago

> Jazz Mesh is currently free — and it's set up as the default sync & storage peer in Jazz How difficult is it to run my own backend? Edit: > Completely DIY Mesh. > Build your own network of sync and storage nodes. Handle networking, security and backups yourself. > Costs: > N × instance cost for your sync nodes. > Very high self-hosted egress costs. > High self-hosted storage costs. Compared to Mesh Pro at $79 for 30,000 sync-minutes (“Sync-minutes are counted on a per-connected-device, per-minute basis.”) per month… I bet the cost of self-hosted storage and egress is very low, actually, of course assuming you have the competence and time to DIY it.

theanzelm 2y ago
npx jazz-run sync Either locally or on your server. And then point the app to that! Edit: re pricing Super preliminary, curious to hear everyone’s thoughts
- earthnail 2y ago
  Storage seems reasonable, maybe even a bit too cheap, but the sync minutes look way too expensive. One problem is with end-user monetization: users are used to pay for storage, but not for how much time they can use your app. For a small storage-heavy indie app I have, I'd pay $79 for base price, $45 for additional storage, and $1500 for sync minutes.
  - theanzelm 2y ago
    Thanks, this is very helpful. If it's unfeasible for a small indie app then that's a bug in the pricing. If you have time, I'd love to hear about your app and work out alternatives (not just for you, but for everyone) anselm@gcmp.io anselm_io on Twitter Or book a chat directly: https://cal.com/anselm-io/talk-about-jazz https://cal.com/anselm-io/talk-about-jazz (everyone else who has opinions on pricing is welcome to do the same)
    - pkrulz101 2y ago
      Random one, but how do you find using Cal - Im keen to try it out?? I saw it on Onestack.cloud hosted for A$10 per 10 users per month which is pretty decent - our startup has a few founders and are pre-revenue, so means we couldn't really afford per user per month.
      - theanzelm 2y ago
        It's great! The first really good commercial open source SaaS app in my opinion and a big inspiration
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by pshc 2y ago

theanzelm 2y ago

npx jazz-run sync Either locally or on your server. And then point the app to that! Edit: re pricing Super preliminary, curious to hear everyone’s thoughts

earthnail 2y ago
Storage seems reasonable, maybe even a bit too cheap, but the sync minutes look way too expensive. One problem is with end-user monetization: users are used to pay for storage, but not for how much time they can use your app. For a small storage-heavy indie app I have, I'd pay $79 for base price, $45 for additional storage, and $1500 for sync minutes.
- theanzelm 2y ago
  Thanks, this is very helpful. If it's unfeasible for a small indie app then that's a bug in the pricing. If you have time, I'd love to hear about your app and work out alternatives (not just for you, but for everyone) anselm@gcmp.io anselm_io on Twitter Or book a chat directly: https://cal.com/anselm-io/talk-about-jazz https://cal.com/anselm-io/talk-about-jazz (everyone else who has opinions on pricing is welcome to do the same)
  - pkrulz101 2y ago
    Random one, but how do you find using Cal - Im keen to try it out?? I saw it on Onestack.cloud hosted for A$10 per 10 users per month which is pretty decent - our startup has a few founders and are pre-revenue, so means we couldn't really afford per user per month.
    - theanzelm 2y ago
      It's great! The first really good commercial open source SaaS app in my opinion and a big inspiration
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