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Well don’t leave us hanging, what did the documents reveal?

r721 2y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022%E2%80%932023_Pentagon_document_leaks#Contents https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022%E2%80%932023_Pentagon_doc...
- Modified3019 2y ago
  Oh, the thugshaker incident. Now I remember.
tourmalinetaco 2y ago
Their post is somehow even worse quality than the stuff they’re complaining about. To answer your question, a lot of the documents were vehicle/weapon data, thickness of armor plates of tanks and such. Specifically regarding what is best searched as “War Thunder Discord leaks”, as it was, supposedly, a bunch of War Thunder players trying to one-up each other on how knowledgeable they were on military hardware. Some of them (there were a good handful over the years) are detailed here: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?l=polish&id=2924096000 https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?l=polish...
- neaden 2y ago
  War Thunder are to my knowledge the only game studio who have had to publicly tell their fans not to send them classified material in order to advocate for a balance change.
  - cyberax 2y ago
    Russia: pls nerf F35, it's too OP.
red-iron-pine 2y ago
This was the Thugshaker incident where an an AF reservist released a bunch of crap online for clout. Takeaways from the wiki link that was posted: Battle of Bakhmut: Late February 2023: Russian flanking maneuvers near Bakhmut, Ukrainian military discussions on response, and supply shortages. February 25: Ukrainian forces nearly encircled; low morale among soldiers. Kyrylo Budanov described the situation as “catastrophic”; offered to deploy elite units to safeguard the supply line. Deployment of reinforcements, including elite units, prevented encirclement but depleted seasoned forces needed for the spring counter-offensive. Casualty Estimates: Documents cover U.S.-provided military resources, Pentagon estimates on casualties, and Ukraine’s planned counteroffensive. U.S. estimates: 189,500 to 223,000 Russian casualties, 124,500 to 131,000 Ukrainian casualties. Soldiers killed in action: 15,500 to 17,500 Ukrainian, 35,500 to 43,000 Russian. Significant casualties for Spetsnaz GRU due to their use in the war. Russian Military Planning: Russian General Staff plans to counter NATO-provided tanks, including paying soldiers who destroy NATO tanks. U.S. aware of Russian plans to destroy a hangar containing drones near Odesa. Russia–NATO Aircraft Encounters and Near Shootdown: September 2022: Russian fighter jet nearly shot down a British surveillance plane off Crimea. Incident disclosed by Ben Wallace in October; involved two Sukhoi Su-27 jets, one firing a missile at the Rivet Joint. Potential NATO response if the missile had hit the plane. Document details other encounters with Russian jets, including the 2023 Black Sea drone incident. French and British reconnaissance flights between the near-shootdown and February 26, 2023. U.S. defense officials stated the Russian pilot misunderstood commands from a radar operator. Weapons Use by Ukraine: Ukraine’s air defense (S-300 and Buk missile systems) expected to be depleted by May. Documents refer to Ukraine using weapons within Russia; Zelenskyy suggested UAV strikes in Rostov Oblast. Potential increase in Chinese aid to Russia if Ukraine strikes within Russia. Exposure of LAPIS, an advanced satellite system used by the Ukrainian military. Proposed “Combat Power Build” of 9 planned brigades supplied by the U.S. and allies. Weapons Use by Russia: Russia attempted to disrupt Starlink systems provided by SpaceX to Ukraine. Western Special Forces: List of countries with special forces in Ukraine: UK (50), Latvia (17), France (15), U.S. (14), Netherlands (1). U.S. special forces at the U.S. embassy in Kyiv for VIP security and oversight of U.S. equipment and supplies.

r721 2y ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022%E2%80%932023_Pentagon_document_leaks#Contents https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022%E2%80%932023_Pentagon_doc...

Modified3019 2y ago
Oh, the thugshaker incident. Now I remember.

tourmalinetaco 2y ago

Their post is somehow even worse quality than the stuff they’re complaining about. To answer your question, a lot of the documents were vehicle/weapon data, thickness of armor plates of tanks and such. Specifically regarding what is best searched as “War Thunder Discord leaks”, as it was, supposedly, a bunch of War Thunder players trying to one-up each other on how knowledgeable they were on military hardware. Some of them (there were a good handful over the years) are detailed here: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?l=polish&id=2924096000 https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?l=polish...

neaden 2y ago
War Thunder are to my knowledge the only game studio who have had to publicly tell their fans not to send them classified material in order to advocate for a balance change.
- cyberax 2y ago
  Russia: pls nerf F35, it's too OP.

red-iron-pine 2y ago

This was the Thugshaker incident where an an AF reservist released a bunch of crap online for clout. Takeaways from the wiki link that was posted: Battle of Bakhmut: Late February 2023: Russian flanking maneuvers near Bakhmut, Ukrainian military discussions on response, and supply shortages. February 25: Ukrainian forces nearly encircled; low morale among soldiers. Kyrylo Budanov described the situation as “catastrophic”; offered to deploy elite units to safeguard the supply line. Deployment of reinforcements, including elite units, prevented encirclement but depleted seasoned forces needed for the spring counter-offensive. Casualty Estimates: Documents cover U.S.-provided military resources, Pentagon estimates on casualties, and Ukraine’s planned counteroffensive. U.S. estimates: 189,500 to 223,000 Russian casualties, 124,500 to 131,000 Ukrainian casualties. Soldiers killed in action: 15,500 to 17,500 Ukrainian, 35,500 to 43,000 Russian. Significant casualties for Spetsnaz GRU due to their use in the war. Russian Military Planning: Russian General Staff plans to counter NATO-provided tanks, including paying soldiers who destroy NATO tanks. U.S. aware of Russian plans to destroy a hangar containing drones near Odesa. Russia–NATO Aircraft Encounters and Near Shootdown: September 2022: Russian fighter jet nearly shot down a British surveillance plane off Crimea. Incident disclosed by Ben Wallace in October; involved two Sukhoi Su-27 jets, one firing a missile at the Rivet Joint. Potential NATO response if the missile had hit the plane. Document details other encounters with Russian jets, including the 2023 Black Sea drone incident. French and British reconnaissance flights between the near-shootdown and February 26, 2023. U.S. defense officials stated the Russian pilot misunderstood commands from a radar operator. Weapons Use by Ukraine: Ukraine’s air defense (S-300 and Buk missile systems) expected to be depleted by May. Documents refer to Ukraine using weapons within Russia; Zelenskyy suggested UAV strikes in Rostov Oblast. Potential increase in Chinese aid to Russia if Ukraine strikes within Russia. Exposure of LAPIS, an advanced satellite system used by the Ukrainian military. Proposed “Combat Power Build” of 9 planned brigades supplied by the U.S. and allies. Weapons Use by Russia: Russia attempted to disrupt Starlink systems provided by SpaceX to Ukraine. Western Special Forces: List of countries with special forces in Ukraine: UK (50), Latvia (17), France (15), U.S. (14), Netherlands (1). U.S. special forces at the U.S. embassy in Kyiv for VIP security and oversight of U.S. equipment and supplies.