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Now all this needs is a simple OS running in a browser, that can edit and compile itself, post the resulting binary onto a WebDAV somewhere, and reload itself f

Now all this needs is a simple OS running in a browser, that can edit and compile itself, post the resulting binary onto a WebDAV somewhere, and reload itself from there. Then it becomes a fully self-sustaining OS that can live forever in a browser.

dangerwill 2y ago
Very interesting idea but I have to say that those goals are not possible with a simple OS, at least by OS definitions of simple :P
- whytevuhuni 2y ago
  The old https://webassembly.sh/ https://webassembly.sh/ and the new https://wasmer.sh/ https://wasmer.sh/ came a long way already. All you need is a virtual filesystem of some sort, a way to download, a way to upload, an editor, a compiler, and a VT100 JS library. We already have WASI for the rest. If the JS is too undesired, then perhaps go the old framebuffer graphics mode (e.g. a region of the WASM memory that is interpreted as an ASCII screen, or maybe even as a full bitmap buffer). Then JavaScript side just needs to forward keyboard/mouse into memory and that screen region out of memory.
  - Arshia001 2y ago
    The framebuffer idea is used in this wasm doom port: https://github.com/diekmann/wasm-fizzbuzz/tree/main/doom https://github.com/diekmann/wasm-fizzbuzz/tree/main/doom WASIX already does all the other stuff you mentioned, including in the browser. The one thing it's missing is GUI, mainly because there's no standard GUI interface in POSIX.
- baudaux 2y ago
  It is possible. I already embedded chibicc in exaequOS. I will continue with xcc and clang
jauntywundrkind 2y ago
And then use webrtc (or ideally someone can revive a webtransport-p2p please!) to serve itself from a page to other people. Ideally http3 over webtransport-p2p! Then add some network discovery so we can advertise & find what's available on our networks!
- spirodonfl 2y ago
  Do you have a proper link to the webtransport-p2p idea? I've done a few searches but I think there's some mix of current implementation and deprecated implementation somehow. What is it that needs reviving?
  - jauntywundrkind 2y ago
    The spec is inactive, afaik, no implementations. Got it backwards, pardon, p2p-webtransport. https://github.com/w3c/p2p-webtransport https://github.com/w3c/p2p-webtransport I don't know why it's fallen off, to be honest, or what was raised against it. Highly desireable to a lot of p2p folk, a very promising webrtc datatransport replacement.
d_philla 2y ago
Check out Jeff Lindsay's Wanix project: https://wanix.sh/ https://wanix.sh/
baudaux 2y ago
Something like exaequOS? https://exaequos.com https://exaequos.com
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dangerwill 2y ago

Very interesting idea but I have to say that those goals are not possible with a simple OS, at least by OS definitions of simple :P

whytevuhuni 2y ago
The old https://webassembly.sh/ https://webassembly.sh/ and the new https://wasmer.sh/ https://wasmer.sh/ came a long way already. All you need is a virtual filesystem of some sort, a way to download, a way to upload, an editor, a compiler, and a VT100 JS library. We already have WASI for the rest. If the JS is too undesired, then perhaps go the old framebuffer graphics mode (e.g. a region of the WASM memory that is interpreted as an ASCII screen, or maybe even as a full bitmap buffer). Then JavaScript side just needs to forward keyboard/mouse into memory and that screen region out of memory.
- Arshia001 2y ago
  The framebuffer idea is used in this wasm doom port: https://github.com/diekmann/wasm-fizzbuzz/tree/main/doom https://github.com/diekmann/wasm-fizzbuzz/tree/main/doom WASIX already does all the other stuff you mentioned, including in the browser. The one thing it's missing is GUI, mainly because there's no standard GUI interface in POSIX.
baudaux 2y ago
It is possible. I already embedded chibicc in exaequOS. I will continue with xcc and clang

jauntywundrkind 2y ago

And then use webrtc (or ideally someone can revive a webtransport-p2p please!) to serve itself from a page to other people. Ideally http3 over webtransport-p2p! Then add some network discovery so we can advertise & find what's available on our networks!

spirodonfl 2y ago
Do you have a proper link to the webtransport-p2p idea? I've done a few searches but I think there's some mix of current implementation and deprecated implementation somehow. What is it that needs reviving?
- jauntywundrkind 2y ago
  The spec is inactive, afaik, no implementations. Got it backwards, pardon, p2p-webtransport. https://github.com/w3c/p2p-webtransport https://github.com/w3c/p2p-webtransport I don't know why it's fallen off, to be honest, or what was raised against it. Highly desireable to a lot of p2p folk, a very promising webrtc datatransport replacement.

d_philla 2y ago

Check out Jeff Lindsay's Wanix project: https://wanix.sh/ https://wanix.sh/

baudaux 2y ago

Something like exaequOS? https://exaequos.com https://exaequos.com

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