"I don't need a hot new framework where my time is spent figuring out how to do basic CRUD operations" Definitely see what you're saying but the flip side is t

"I don't need a hot new framework where my time is spent figuring out how to do basic CRUD operations" Definitely see what you're saying but the flip side is that in my experience once you figure out the basic CRUD operations in a good framework, the amount of time it takes to implement them decreases hugely compared to repeatedly writing boilerplate in PHP. Being able to get something functional up and running extremely rapidly was exactly what caused me to move most of my projects away from PHP although it would be fair to say I didn't give the corresponding PHP frameworks much of a chance as I had other reasons for wanting to consolidate codebases into either python or ruby and I hear Zend, Symfony and various others have come on a long way.