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As per GitHub's popularity chart, Ruby was the #5 language in 2014, and #10 in 2022 - https://octoverse.github.com/2022/top-programming-languages https://octove

As per GitHub's popularity chart, Ruby was the #5 language in 2014, and #10 in 2022 - https://octoverse.github.com/2022/top-programming-languages https://octoverse.github.com/2022/top-programming-languages Starting a new commercial project/company in 2024 in Ruby is questionable.

pjm331 2y ago
one could also argue that making tech decisions based on popularity charts is questionable
- stuart_real 2y ago
  One could argue that making tech decisions while completely ignoring popularity charts is more questionable.
  - Mystery-Machine 2y ago
    You're right. Those shouldn't be completely ignored. They probably shouldn't be the only argument to make tech decisions upon. Did you ever build any webapp in Ruby on Rails? You should check it out!
pdntspa 2y ago
Rising from #10 to #5 seems to imply that a lot of people are making 'questionable' decisions. As an active senior RoR dev since like 2014ish seeing that makes my heart atwitter :)
- stuart_real 2y ago
  I corrected the mistake. It went from #10 to #5. Only language with such secular decline.
  - Mystery-Machine 2y ago
    Pardon my sarcasm: You should work on WordPress. It's the most popular website framework in the world.
    - stuart_real 2y ago
      Yeah, it is. But is it growing or shrinking in the market share, that's the real question.
      - zilian 2y ago
        Rails 8 can make you a one-person framework and a successful SaaS solo-owner. Don't really care about the declining market share imo, I love and embrace it despite its shortcomings.
hakunin 2y ago
Correction: you mean 2014, not 2024. Do you think there is no criteria worth considering besides the size of the hiring pool? What if 2 hiring pools are sufficiently big, do you still pick the bigger one every time?
- stuart_real 2y ago
  Thanks. Corrected. > Do you think there is no criteria worth considering besides the size of the hiring pool? What if 2 hiring pool are sufficiently big, do you still pick the bigger one every time? It is not just a hiring pool. Look at various third-party SASS tools, they see Ruby as a second-grade language to support.
  - hakunin 2y ago
    That's not at all my experience. There's a one-line integration between almost everything under the sun and Rails (business/traffic analytics, performance/profilers, error notifications, logging, object storage integration, I could probably go on). Many other frameworks don't even have the general capability of doing one-line integrations.
- dbtablesorrows 2y ago
  I think a fair concern is lack of SDKs for cloud based services you will need to / will be forced to use.
  - hakunin 2y ago
    I responded to another thread under this comment, but can you give me some examples?
    - dbtablesorrows 2y ago
      Azure SDK.

pjm331 2y ago

one could also argue that making tech decisions based on popularity charts is questionable

stuart_real 2y ago
One could argue that making tech decisions while completely ignoring popularity charts is more questionable.
- Mystery-Machine 2y ago
  You're right. Those shouldn't be completely ignored. They probably shouldn't be the only argument to make tech decisions upon. Did you ever build any webapp in Ruby on Rails? You should check it out!

pdntspa 2y ago

Rising from #10 to #5 seems to imply that a lot of people are making 'questionable' decisions. As an active senior RoR dev since like 2014ish seeing that makes my heart atwitter :)

stuart_real 2y ago
I corrected the mistake. It went from #10 to #5. Only language with such secular decline.
- Mystery-Machine 2y ago
  Pardon my sarcasm: You should work on WordPress. It's the most popular website framework in the world.
  - stuart_real 2y ago
    Yeah, it is. But is it growing or shrinking in the market share, that's the real question.
    - zilian 2y ago
      Rails 8 can make you a one-person framework and a successful SaaS solo-owner. Don't really care about the declining market share imo, I love and embrace it despite its shortcomings.

hakunin 2y ago

Correction: you mean 2014, not 2024. Do you think there is no criteria worth considering besides the size of the hiring pool? What if 2 hiring pools are sufficiently big, do you still pick the bigger one every time?

stuart_real 2y ago
Thanks. Corrected. > Do you think there is no criteria worth considering besides the size of the hiring pool? What if 2 hiring pool are sufficiently big, do you still pick the bigger one every time? It is not just a hiring pool. Look at various third-party SASS tools, they see Ruby as a second-grade language to support.
- hakunin 2y ago
  That's not at all my experience. There's a one-line integration between almost everything under the sun and Rails (business/traffic analytics, performance/profilers, error notifications, logging, object storage integration, I could probably go on). Many other frameworks don't even have the general capability of doing one-line integrations.
dbtablesorrows 2y ago
I think a fair concern is lack of SDKs for cloud based services you will need to / will be forced to use.
- hakunin 2y ago
  I responded to another thread under this comment, but can you give me some examples?
  - dbtablesorrows 2y ago
    Azure SDK.