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Fair point... it was a coastal California-centric point but there is plenty of nuance or adjustment to be made. At some point in the 90's we'd probably have sai

Fair point... it was a coastal California-centric point but there is plenty of nuance or adjustment to be made. At some point in the 90's we'd probably have said "Silver E class Mercedes" is the most expedient luxury sedan, if you wanted a different example.

_yb2s 2y ago
The early to mid 90s E class aka W124 definitely went down in history as one of the best quality and best designed cars ever made. Other luxury cars may be faster, more fun, or have more features… but the W124 probably is “the best” if you’re looking just at build quality and well thought out design details. As a car nerd though, I never felt the need to buy one because they just seem fairly boring- other than a few rare models most were 4 door sedans with automatics, fairly small engines, and soft non sporty suspension.
adastra22 2y ago
I think Toyota would have gotten your point across better. Tesla is most certainly not expedient. It is a luxury purchase.
- foobazgt 2y ago
  It's definitely in a class above Toyota, but once you account for gas savings, the LR RWD costs about as much as the cheapest Corolla you can buy. People bagged on Tesla being too expensive when their $35K car was only available over the phone. Now, adjusted for inflation, the LR RWD is $28K and comes with 100mi additional range to boot. On top of that, it's $13K below the average car purchase price. IMO, it destroys its competitors in the value market, and the media is being awfully silent about it. I guess it's far too easy to focus on Elon instead.
  - marxisttemp 2y ago
    “In a class above Toyota” in what sense? Certainly not in reliability or interior quality or CarPlay compatibility…
  - adastra22 2y ago
    Really depends on where you live and what your electric rates are. These is my breakdown (Corolla comes out ahead as cheaper to operate): https://www.reddit.com/r/TeslaModel3/comments/14rj3fp/tesla_charging_cost_in_bay_area_vs_a_hybrids_mpg/ https://www.reddit.com/r/TeslaModel3/comments/14rj3fp/tesla_...
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_yb2s 2y ago

The early to mid 90s E class aka W124 definitely went down in history as one of the best quality and best designed cars ever made. Other luxury cars may be faster, more fun, or have more features… but the W124 probably is “the best” if you’re looking just at build quality and well thought out design details. As a car nerd though, I never felt the need to buy one because they just seem fairly boring- other than a few rare models most were 4 door sedans with automatics, fairly small engines, and soft non sporty suspension.

adastra22 2y ago

I think Toyota would have gotten your point across better. Tesla is most certainly not expedient. It is a luxury purchase.

foobazgt 2y ago
It's definitely in a class above Toyota, but once you account for gas savings, the LR RWD costs about as much as the cheapest Corolla you can buy. People bagged on Tesla being too expensive when their $35K car was only available over the phone. Now, adjusted for inflation, the LR RWD is $28K and comes with 100mi additional range to boot. On top of that, it's $13K below the average car purchase price. IMO, it destroys its competitors in the value market, and the media is being awfully silent about it. I guess it's far too easy to focus on Elon instead.
- marxisttemp 2y ago
  “In a class above Toyota” in what sense? Certainly not in reliability or interior quality or CarPlay compatibility…
- adastra22 2y ago
  Really depends on where you live and what your electric rates are. These is my breakdown (Corolla comes out ahead as cheaper to operate): https://www.reddit.com/r/TeslaModel3/comments/14rj3fp/tesla_charging_cost_in_bay_area_vs_a_hybrids_mpg/ https://www.reddit.com/r/TeslaModel3/comments/14rj3fp/tesla_...
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