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Hillary Clinton went on TV and said we should get rid of Section 230 in order to moderate content. So is it really that surprising that SV made a right turn?

ajuc 2y ago
SV made the choice before (by accepting money from dictatorships for political influence via social media). Attempts at regulation were a reaction to that. There's no way the situation can stay like that forever. There will be regulation like there's regulation of TV, radio, press, etc. Without regulation you don't get a libertarian utopia - you just get oligarchy.
- mlinhares 2y ago
  Wait, the libertarian utopia IS oligarchy. So it is all right by their standards.
  - ajuc 2y ago
    There's orders of magnitude more libertarians than oligarchs. It's even in the name :) Most libertarians aren't rational egoists, they are just naive losers oligarchs take advantage of to get more power.
    - mlinhares 2y ago
      They still firmly believe they'll be the oligarchs, just like lots of people think if they were in medieval Europe they would be nobles or knights.
AlexandrB 2y ago
This argument doesn't hold water. Hillary Clinton is kind of irrelevant at this point. She doesn't hold any kind of elected office and remains pretty unpopular among lefties after losing in 2016. Meanwhile Trump openly tried to reduce the protections of Section 230 while he was president[1]. [1] https://www.forbes.com/sites/abrambrown/2020/05/28/what-is-section-230-and-why-does-trump-want-to-change-it/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/abrambrown/2020/05/28/what-is-s...
- game_the0ry 2y ago
  That was back in 2020 when he was banned on Twitter (back when it was still Twitter). I think its fair to say he wont be banned on X.
jkaptur 2y ago
Donald Trump is strongly against Section 230. https://www.cfr.org/in-brief/trump-and-section-230-what-know https://www.cfr.org/in-brief/trump-and-section-230-what-know

ajuc 2y ago

SV made the choice before (by accepting money from dictatorships for political influence via social media). Attempts at regulation were a reaction to that. There's no way the situation can stay like that forever. There will be regulation like there's regulation of TV, radio, press, etc. Without regulation you don't get a libertarian utopia - you just get oligarchy.

mlinhares 2y ago
Wait, the libertarian utopia IS oligarchy. So it is all right by their standards.
- ajuc 2y ago
  There's orders of magnitude more libertarians than oligarchs. It's even in the name :) Most libertarians aren't rational egoists, they are just naive losers oligarchs take advantage of to get more power.
  - mlinhares 2y ago
    They still firmly believe they'll be the oligarchs, just like lots of people think if they were in medieval Europe they would be nobles or knights.

AlexandrB 2y ago

This argument doesn't hold water. Hillary Clinton is kind of irrelevant at this point. She doesn't hold any kind of elected office and remains pretty unpopular among lefties after losing in 2016. Meanwhile Trump openly tried to reduce the protections of Section 230 while he was president[1]. [1] https://www.forbes.com/sites/abrambrown/2020/05/28/what-is-section-230-and-why-does-trump-want-to-change-it/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/abrambrown/2020/05/28/what-is-s...

game_the0ry 2y ago
That was back in 2020 when he was banned on Twitter (back when it was still Twitter). I think its fair to say he wont be banned on X.

jkaptur 2y ago

Donald Trump is strongly against Section 230. https://www.cfr.org/in-brief/trump-and-section-230-what-know https://www.cfr.org/in-brief/trump-and-section-230-what-know