I completely agree with you. The problem with PHP (besides the myriad warts of the language and libraries) is the average kind of programmers that use it: 0 cod

I completely agree with you. The problem with PHP (besides the myriad warts of the language and libraries) is the average kind of programmers that use it: 0 code reuse, lots of cut & paste, insecure-by-design philosophy and the culture of 'immediate results': if there's an error fix it fix it for the current page so that the next time you refresh it'll be gone; then fix it on the other pages later. Rinse, repeat.