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Reminds me of an arcade machine a friend would get behind, turn it off and back on, and it would give you a free token. Maybe its designed that way so the emplo

Reminds me of an arcade machine a friend would get behind, turn it off and back on, and it would give you a free token. Maybe its designed that way so the employee can test it for free, not sure. But he climbed behind it, and proceeded to play for free.

IWeldMelons 2y ago
Those who lived in USSR remembers soda vending machines (they poured your drink in a glass cup; you were expected to wash it before using by pressing on a cup, which stood upside down on plastic plate with holes, kinda inverted shower head; very unhygienic, I know). Well it had a button behind that let you have a free drink. You could also "upgrade" pure carbonated water (1 kopeyek) to a sweet soft drink (3 kopeyek) by pressing another button. needless to say schoolchildren would abuse the hell out of this "feature".
- jcrash 2y ago
  > pressing on a cup, which stood upside down on plastic plate with holes, kinda inverted shower head I think they still use these in bars https://barsupplies.com/collections/glass-washers https://barsupplies.com/collections/glass-washers
- everforward 2y ago
  > you were expected to wash it before using by pressing on a cup, which stood upside down on plastic plate with holes, kinda inverted shower head; very unhygienic, I know Those systems are occasionally used in bars in the US, though they've dropped the whole plate and it's usually just arms where the holes are. To my understanding, at least in the US, they aren't used for deep-cleaning anything. That happens with soap and water in the back still. The upside-down-showers are used to clean out the dregs of someone's glass when they get a refill (you give them a glass, they give it a quick rinse, refill it and hand it back), and as a quick rinse for new glasses to clean up water stains/detergent residue and anything that might have fallen in since they were cleaned (hair, dust, etc).
  - baud147258 2y ago
    I think for beer there's a reason of bringing the glass to a colder temperature, which (from what I've heard) should reduce the amount of foam (not sure that's the exact term) in the glass.
    - everforward 2y ago
      Oh, are the lines refrigerated or otherwise thermally controlled? I always presumed it was regular tapwater; i.e. probably slightly below room temp, but not much. Mileage obviously varies, but the "beer nerd/snob" bars I've been to simply don't re-use glasses without a full wash. They'd rather just charge a little more to hire more dishwashers and be able to absolutely guarantee that there's no leftover beer/water in your glass when they refill it, and that the glass is refrigerated if that's something they want. I've always heard the head/foam had more to do with how you pour the beer (more impact/movement = more foam), but it makes sense that temperature affects it as well. There's some kind of official course on how to pour Guinness to get the correct head on it. I don't remember the whole thing, but it was something about holding the glass the correct distance from the tap and tilting it so that the beer "slides" down the side of the glass rather than a direct perpendicular impact with the beer already in the glass (which makes more foam).
    - mschuster91 2y ago
      For Weizen beer, you always give the glass a quick rinse beforehand to get rid of detergent remains, so you can actually get a foam "crown" - if there is even the tiniest amount of detergent present, the foam collapses.
  - IWeldMelons 2y ago
    Yes right, the key difference that the were used to clean between uses by different customers; this is clearly insufficient; at least because a good deal of customers - drunks, children, people with mental issues would not wash at all before use, a good vector for disease spread. Late USSR I happen to remember always had problems with hepatitis spread, which is considerably less of a problem today, due to adoption of disposable food containers/utensils.
  - 2y ago
everforward 2y ago
I believe some of those early arcade games were more electrical engineering than software engineering, so perhaps it was easier to set it up that way? To my understanding some of those early arcade games also had jumpers to control some of the behavior. It could be that a tech set the "free credit on reboot" jumper and forgot to reset it when they were done.
- giancarlostoro 2y ago
  Maybe they never reset it since it was too convenient to let employees just do it every morning, not sure, but yeah I think you might be right.

IWeldMelons 2y ago

Those who lived in USSR remembers soda vending machines (they poured your drink in a glass cup; you were expected to wash it before using by pressing on a cup, which stood upside down on plastic plate with holes, kinda inverted shower head; very unhygienic, I know). Well it had a button behind that let you have a free drink. You could also "upgrade" pure carbonated water (1 kopeyek) to a sweet soft drink (3 kopeyek) by pressing another button. needless to say schoolchildren would abuse the hell out of this "feature".

jcrash 2y ago
> pressing on a cup, which stood upside down on plastic plate with holes, kinda inverted shower head I think they still use these in bars https://barsupplies.com/collections/glass-washers https://barsupplies.com/collections/glass-washers
everforward 2y ago
> you were expected to wash it before using by pressing on a cup, which stood upside down on plastic plate with holes, kinda inverted shower head; very unhygienic, I know Those systems are occasionally used in bars in the US, though they've dropped the whole plate and it's usually just arms where the holes are. To my understanding, at least in the US, they aren't used for deep-cleaning anything. That happens with soap and water in the back still. The upside-down-showers are used to clean out the dregs of someone's glass when they get a refill (you give them a glass, they give it a quick rinse, refill it and hand it back), and as a quick rinse for new glasses to clean up water stains/detergent residue and anything that might have fallen in since they were cleaned (hair, dust, etc).
- baud147258 2y ago
  I think for beer there's a reason of bringing the glass to a colder temperature, which (from what I've heard) should reduce the amount of foam (not sure that's the exact term) in the glass.
  - everforward 2y ago
    Oh, are the lines refrigerated or otherwise thermally controlled? I always presumed it was regular tapwater; i.e. probably slightly below room temp, but not much. Mileage obviously varies, but the "beer nerd/snob" bars I've been to simply don't re-use glasses without a full wash. They'd rather just charge a little more to hire more dishwashers and be able to absolutely guarantee that there's no leftover beer/water in your glass when they refill it, and that the glass is refrigerated if that's something they want. I've always heard the head/foam had more to do with how you pour the beer (more impact/movement = more foam), but it makes sense that temperature affects it as well. There's some kind of official course on how to pour Guinness to get the correct head on it. I don't remember the whole thing, but it was something about holding the glass the correct distance from the tap and tilting it so that the beer "slides" down the side of the glass rather than a direct perpendicular impact with the beer already in the glass (which makes more foam).
  - mschuster91 2y ago
    For Weizen beer, you always give the glass a quick rinse beforehand to get rid of detergent remains, so you can actually get a foam "crown" - if there is even the tiniest amount of detergent present, the foam collapses.
- IWeldMelons 2y ago
  Yes right, the key difference that the were used to clean between uses by different customers; this is clearly insufficient; at least because a good deal of customers - drunks, children, people with mental issues would not wash at all before use, a good vector for disease spread. Late USSR I happen to remember always had problems with hepatitis spread, which is considerably less of a problem today, due to adoption of disposable food containers/utensils.
- 2y ago

everforward 2y ago

I believe some of those early arcade games were more electrical engineering than software engineering, so perhaps it was easier to set it up that way? To my understanding some of those early arcade games also had jumpers to control some of the behavior. It could be that a tech set the "free credit on reboot" jumper and forgot to reset it when they were done.

giancarlostoro 2y ago
Maybe they never reset it since it was too convenient to let employees just do it every morning, not sure, but yeah I think you might be right.