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> The action of a comet rather than straightforward miracle was an attempt by the materialists and deists to reduce God’s direct influence over the world and a
by cvoss 2y ago
> The action of a comet rather than straightforward miracle
was an attempt by the materialists and deists to reduce God’s direct influence over the
world and attribute everything to the secondary causes of natural law.
There is a lot to unpack there.
There seems to be an understanding that if second causes are involved, then no miracle (or, at least, a lesser one) is occurring. But is not the existence and continued functioning of second causes miraculous? Or, why do the laws of physics remain constant (apparently)? There can be no physical reason for that without creating an infinite regress.
The deist position that God is uninvolved in the clockwork universe he created is incompatible with omniscience. If its entire unfolding is contained within his thought, then his continued involvement is contained within the initial creative act. (Beware, also, of discussing time too literally in a context external to the universe.)
Here is a relevant teaching from the Westminster Confession of Faith (1646), a document which is still in use, with some ammendments, by many denomnations today:
> 5.2. Although, in relation to the foreknowledge and decree of God, the first Cause, all things come to pass immutably, and infallibly; yet, by the same providence, He ordereth them to fall out, according to the nature of second causes, either necessarily, freely, or contingently.
> 5.3. God, in His ordinary providence, maketh use of means, yet is free to work without, above, and against them, at His pleasure.
- geye1234 2y agoThe deist/materialist position is that God, if He acts at all, must be just another cause working in the universe, in the same manner as gravity, heat, charge, or whatever. Once this assumption is established (though rarely voiced), the "god of the gaps" attack is made. The idea is that God's action is a bad hypothesis, while [insert-theory-here] is a better one. But of course, this is question-begging. It assumes what it is trying to prove, namely that the totality of reality can be explained by scientific hypotheses of one kind or another. >But is not the existence and continued functioning of second causes miraculous? I mean, I wouldn't call it miraculous, since a miracle implies some sort of interference with the usual course of things. And calling it miraculous would also imply that second causes have no kind of explanatory power whatsoever, which is clearly false. This also gets us dangerously close to occasionalism, which is the idea that God causes everything independently of their visible causes, a kind of equal-and-opposite error to deism/materialism.