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Copyright isn't required once any work can be created faster than you can snap your fingers. It was originally a way to motivate creation of artistic works, si

Copyright isn't required once any work can be created faster than you can snap your fingers. It was originally a way to motivate creation of artistic works, since they used to involve a lot of effort.

diggan 2y ago
> It was originally a way to motivate creation of artistic works, since they used to involve a lot of effort. So true, then abstract expressionism appeared and suddenly copyright wasn't a thing anymore.
neilv 2y ago
> Copyright isn't required once any work can be created faster than you can snap your fingers. Copyright isn't required if you use a tool built upon violating copyright? Breathing isn't required if someone strangles everyone to death. (Now we can all transcend breathing, in the new post-living higher plane of existence. Which surely is viable and great, and totally won't be abused to enrich the worst people, to the detriment of everyone else.)
- jfoster 2y ago
  That's a very valid point if courts around the world are about to rule against every AI company in hundreds or thousands of court cases. Do you believe that is going to happen?
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blibble 2y ago
it still requires a lot of effort, but by other people not a lot of effort by the parasites
- jfoster 2y ago
  OK, but put aside whether you like or dislike this for just a minute or two in order to think about it objectively. You are aware of the way things are trending, right? Is the trend showing any sign that it might reverse, for the rest of human civilization's time? I liked when things were simpler too, but the reality (for better or worse) seems to be that AI is not going away.
  - johneth 2y ago
    > but the reality (for better or worse) seems to be that AI is not going away. AI is in a hype cycle at the moment. Once tech companies realise that they're not going to be able to recoup the billions of dollars they've dumped into the money hole, they'll either raise prices or withdraw products (or a mixture of both). Consumers, by and large, don't like generative AI. Or at least they don't like it enough to make it pay for itself.
  - blibble 2y ago
    > I liked when things were simpler too, but the reality (for better or worse) seems to be that AI is not going away. we'll see what happens once the parasites have killed the host
icehawk 2y ago
It was originally created because printers needed a constant stream of new works because once they published something their competitors could immediately copy it and republish it without the initial cost of making the work. That's why its copyright and not artistright.

diggan 2y ago

> It was originally a way to motivate creation of artistic works, since they used to involve a lot of effort. So true, then abstract expressionism appeared and suddenly copyright wasn't a thing anymore.

neilv 2y ago

> Copyright isn't required once any work can be created faster than you can snap your fingers. Copyright isn't required if you use a tool built upon violating copyright? Breathing isn't required if someone strangles everyone to death. (Now we can all transcend breathing, in the new post-living higher plane of existence. Which surely is viable and great, and totally won't be abused to enrich the worst people, to the detriment of everyone else.)

jfoster 2y ago
That's a very valid point if courts around the world are about to rule against every AI company in hundreds or thousands of court cases. Do you believe that is going to happen?

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blibble 2y ago

it still requires a lot of effort, but by other people not a lot of effort by the parasites

jfoster 2y ago
OK, but put aside whether you like or dislike this for just a minute or two in order to think about it objectively. You are aware of the way things are trending, right? Is the trend showing any sign that it might reverse, for the rest of human civilization's time? I liked when things were simpler too, but the reality (for better or worse) seems to be that AI is not going away.
- johneth 2y ago
  > but the reality (for better or worse) seems to be that AI is not going away. AI is in a hype cycle at the moment. Once tech companies realise that they're not going to be able to recoup the billions of dollars they've dumped into the money hole, they'll either raise prices or withdraw products (or a mixture of both). Consumers, by and large, don't like generative AI. Or at least they don't like it enough to make it pay for itself.
- blibble 2y ago
  > I liked when things were simpler too, but the reality (for better or worse) seems to be that AI is not going away. we'll see what happens once the parasites have killed the host

icehawk 2y ago

It was originally created because printers needed a constant stream of new works because once they published something their competitors could immediately copy it and republish it without the initial cost of making the work. That's why its copyright and not artistright.