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I agree that it's rather surprising that in this day and age, nothing comes close to the out-of-the-box ease and performance that PHP gives for web development.

I agree that it's rather surprising that in this day and age, nothing comes close to the out-of-the-box ease and performance that PHP gives for web development. Install a couple of packages, and BANG, you're up and running. It's been a year since I've taken a look at the rest of the webdev landscape, but it seems that you either lose out to an overly-complex setup (by comparison), or suffer with a memory hog that makes bootstrapping on a 1GB VPS a nightmare. I'm pleasantly surprised at the high rates my PHP consultancy work commands; it's obviously helped by the number of hit-it-till-it-works web devs out there.

jstalin 14y ago
Agreed. I can set up a VPS with debian/nginx/mysql/php in about 10 minutes and have a site up and running. Python? Ruby? There just doesn't seem to be an easy way of getting them running on a web server. At least, I haven't figured it out yet if it is easy to do.
- mnutt 14y ago
  `git push heroku` style deployment is pretty easy. And for anything where having a site up and running in 10 minutes is the primary driver, Heroku is probably good enough. Granted, for larger projects where you run your own ruby/python services, it could surely be easier. But for larger projects you probably want to spend more time on your deployment setup anyway.
- glassx 14y ago
  For Ruby there's Passenger/Ruby Enterprise Edition, which is simple to setup IMO, but it's stuck on 1.8.x, AFAIK...