3 ms·

> You can upload a documents with fake show notes straight to NotebookLLM's website, so if you're making silly podcast episodes for your kids, that's the best w

by Carrok 2y ago

> You can upload a documents with fake show notes straight to NotebookLLM's website, so if you're making silly podcast episodes for your kids, that's the best way to do it. Please don’t do this. You don’t need a professional mic to record a podcast with your kids any phone or computer mic will work. Then you can have fun editing it with open source audio tools. Don’t have a computer generate crap for your kids to consume. Make it with them instead.

SkyPuncher 2y ago
My kids and I are having a blast using Suno to make stupid songs. With your attitude, we wouldn't even attempt it because (1) I'm not musically inclined (2) I don't have the time or desire to learn the actual composition (3) the kids don't have the focus beyond having the bot write something silly.
- Phiwise_ 2y ago
  But why have fun with your kids when you could spread the good word of open source instead?
  - deleted 2y ago
    [deleted]
- Baeocystin 2y ago
  My family had a great laugh this past week doing just that. Current household favorite is titled "Triple-Digit Temperatures in the Fall are Bullshit", as I'm sure many fellow bay area folks can agree with. Would we have taken the time to compose such a track otherwise? No way. But it's sure been fun playing with what we can. The end result is us laughing together, and I love it.
  - SkyPuncher 2y ago
    This is exactly it. We've had a lot of silly songs. If my kids are interested, it will spark the path towards "proper" music production where they learn the necessary underlying skills. Chances are, this won't be the thing they latch onto. They have so much exposure to other things that this doesn't really need to be the hill I die on. They'll find something else to invest in.
- breaker-kind 2y ago
  you should buy your kids a cheap ukelele and hit your computer with a hammer
  - thomashop 2y ago
    Or maybe hit the Ukulele with a hammer, record it with a computer and create an experimental noise album.
- vineyardmike 2y ago
  This is actually inline with the parent commentor's point - let your kids be creative and try to produce something. Don't (1) ask a machine to automate the creativity and (2) then give it to your kids to consume in a non-interactive manner.
  - SkyPuncher 2y ago
    But it's not. My argument is my kids would never even attempt to do this without the machine's involvement. Making original music the "legacy" way involves days/weeks/months/years of learning. It's just not realistic to argue that they should make music from scratch.
    - vineyardmike 2y ago
      I’m not arguing they should be doing things from “scratch” (although kids have been making music from scratch for all of mankind). If you think a child needs weeks or months to have fun making music some weekend, you’re taking it too seriously. A kid can bang around in GarageBand for an hour or two and have fun making something. It doesn’t need to be good enough to monetize on Spotify, and if that’s their goal.. then years learning may actually be the reasonable approach. Kids making something, with any tool, is better than consuming something. Because making something is creative. They don’t need to know music theory to have fun making things, it doesn’t even need to be good. The AI tool should allow a kids creativity to go further, not replace it. The original post was about a parent using an LLM to write a podcast to entertain their kids, which is just another way for kids to passively consume low-quality crap. The proposed alternative was to make a “podcast” with your kid, using any tool you have available at home. The point was don’t automate the creativity and leave your kids to consume passively.
m463 2y ago
<deleted>
- ethbr1 2y ago
  This is the saddest thing I've ever read on HN. Dear future, please do better.
  - HeatrayEnjoyer 2y ago
    What was it?
    - ethbr1 2y ago
      It was probably less dark than what you're imagining, but in deference to parent's editing I won't repost. Suffice to say, raising a child is a uniquely wonderful opportunity, for those who choose to embark on that adventure.
  - vineyardmike 2y ago
    It wasn't the saddest thing ever. It was also probably a joke. That said, I think there has been many sci-fi stories written from the perspective of it being true. One day we may face that reality, and we'll have to ask ourselves what parenthood means.
- ToucanLoucan 2y ago
  I refused to bring children into this world, what on earth makes you think I want to bring synthetic intelligence into it? I barely want to be here most days.
Taek 2y ago
Alternatively: AI gen is probably the future of music composition. By the time your kids are professionals AI is going to be a lot stronger than it is today. Are your kids having fun? Are they learning? Is it a good bonding experience? Those are the things that matter.

by Carrok 2y ago

SkyPuncher 2y ago

My kids and I are having a blast using Suno to make stupid songs. With your attitude, we wouldn't even attempt it because (1) I'm not musically inclined (2) I don't have the time or desire to learn the actual composition (3) the kids don't have the focus beyond having the bot write something silly.

Phiwise_ 2y ago
But why have fun with your kids when you could spread the good word of open source instead?
- deleted 2y ago
  [deleted]
Baeocystin 2y ago
My family had a great laugh this past week doing just that. Current household favorite is titled "Triple-Digit Temperatures in the Fall are Bullshit", as I'm sure many fellow bay area folks can agree with. Would we have taken the time to compose such a track otherwise? No way. But it's sure been fun playing with what we can. The end result is us laughing together, and I love it.
- SkyPuncher 2y ago
  This is exactly it. We've had a lot of silly songs. If my kids are interested, it will spark the path towards "proper" music production where they learn the necessary underlying skills. Chances are, this won't be the thing they latch onto. They have so much exposure to other things that this doesn't really need to be the hill I die on. They'll find something else to invest in.
breaker-kind 2y ago
you should buy your kids a cheap ukelele and hit your computer with a hammer
- thomashop 2y ago
  Or maybe hit the Ukulele with a hammer, record it with a computer and create an experimental noise album.
vineyardmike 2y ago
This is actually inline with the parent commentor's point - let your kids be creative and try to produce something. Don't (1) ask a machine to automate the creativity and (2) then give it to your kids to consume in a non-interactive manner.
- SkyPuncher 2y ago
  But it's not. My argument is my kids would never even attempt to do this without the machine's involvement. Making original music the "legacy" way involves days/weeks/months/years of learning. It's just not realistic to argue that they should make music from scratch.
  - vineyardmike 2y ago
    I’m not arguing they should be doing things from “scratch” (although kids have been making music from scratch for all of mankind). If you think a child needs weeks or months to have fun making music some weekend, you’re taking it too seriously. A kid can bang around in GarageBand for an hour or two and have fun making something. It doesn’t need to be good enough to monetize on Spotify, and if that’s their goal.. then years learning may actually be the reasonable approach. Kids making something, with any tool, is better than consuming something. Because making something is creative. They don’t need to know music theory to have fun making things, it doesn’t even need to be good. The AI tool should allow a kids creativity to go further, not replace it. The original post was about a parent using an LLM to write a podcast to entertain their kids, which is just another way for kids to passively consume low-quality crap. The proposed alternative was to make a “podcast” with your kid, using any tool you have available at home. The point was don’t automate the creativity and leave your kids to consume passively.

m463 2y ago

ethbr1 2y ago
This is the saddest thing I've ever read on HN. Dear future, please do better.
- HeatrayEnjoyer 2y ago
  What was it?
  - ethbr1 2y ago
    It was probably less dark than what you're imagining, but in deference to parent's editing I won't repost. Suffice to say, raising a child is a uniquely wonderful opportunity, for those who choose to embark on that adventure.
- vineyardmike 2y ago
  It wasn't the saddest thing ever. It was also probably a joke. That said, I think there has been many sci-fi stories written from the perspective of it being true. One day we may face that reality, and we'll have to ask ourselves what parenthood means.
ToucanLoucan 2y ago
I refused to bring children into this world, what on earth makes you think I want to bring synthetic intelligence into it? I barely want to be here most days.

Taek 2y ago

Alternatively: AI gen is probably the future of music composition. By the time your kids are professionals AI is going to be a lot stronger than it is today. Are your kids having fun? Are they learning? Is it a good bonding experience? Those are the things that matter.