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> original GPT4 was the best coding LLM I dealt with, and it was 1.5+ years ago. the context size was pitiful, yes, but it was a lot smarter than the current cr

by 015a 2y ago

> original GPT4 was the best coding LLM I dealt with, and it was 1.5+ years ago. the context size was pitiful, yes, but it was a lot smarter than the current crop of big models. Anytime someone says "this is the worst it'll ever be" I can't help but think "oh sweet summer child"; and then I ask them, what's your favorite operating system you've ever used? The answer heavily depends on the person's age. Windows 10 or 7 dominates the conversation, and for slightly older folks, XP. "MacOS Snow Leopard" gets said a lot, that was a beloved MacOS release because they very famously said "no new features we're just fixing the old ones" and they actually did it. No one ever says "MacOS Sequoia" or "Windows 11". Man, the discourse surrounding the new iOS 18 Photos app is reaching a fever pitch. Sorry for the weird music on this, but its the first clip I could find of even, gasp, Elon Musk, stating this very real fact [1]: Technology does not automatically improve. In fact, it seems like especially software loves to get worse, and it takes a focused effort, from talented individuals, as far removed from money and business and agilescrum as possible to keep things operationally stable. But, sure, definitely the new metaversecryptoai bubblescam will escape that and be built to the highest possible quality. There definitely won't be investors and men in suits in every room saying "we're losing billions is there a knob we can turn to reduce electricity usage?" OpenAI is definitely raising billions to fund the R&D of the next level of intelligence, and certainly not because without that capital they'd be bankrupt in three months. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDC6kWC8y2Y https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDC6kWC8y2Y

shepherdjerred 2y ago
I would pick Windows 11 (LTSC) over any prior version of Windows, and I would pick macOS Sequoia over any prior version of macOS.
- 015a 2y ago
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  - shepherdjerred 2y ago
    It's uncharitable of you to consider my opinion as being contrarian versus being genuine preference. Alternatively you could have chosen to be curious about my response that deviates from your understanding. I've used Windows 97 onwards, macOS around Mavericks, and various desktop Linux distros from around 2013. I would have told you that I like Windows 11 (LTSC) because it is much more visually pleasing than 7/8/10. The OS works reliably and I overall enjoy using it much more than the Linux distros I tried out before the LTSC build was made available. I like macOS Sequoia (and iOS 18) because Siri has gotten substantially better and I'm excited about Apple Intelligence. iOS 18 adds RCS which has been great and I actually do like Photos quite a bit, but I only moved to iCloud Photos while I was on the beta, so I can't compare to the old Photos app.
    - Retric 2y ago
      That built in advertising is definitely aesthetically pleasing. It just makes the whole UI pop.
      - shepherdjerred 2y ago
        This is another unnecessarily snarky reply. I’ve specifically mentioned the LTSC build when mentioning Windows 11, which does not have the normal bloat. The consumer version of Windows 11 is terrible IMO, but that’s more a business decision than a technical one.
        bruce511 2y ago
        It's also worth pointing out that advertising in Windows is localized (I suspect mostly in the US). I am outside the US, I'm running Windows 11, and I see no ads.
        Retric 2y ago
        The LTSC build isn’t the totality of Windows 11, it’s even missing major features. You can defend advertising as ‘a business decision‘ but this is an actual product they are shipping as Windows 11. LTSC is also compromised due to business decisions, so there’s no clean option.
  - _annum 2y ago
    Despite minor grievances (primarily UI related, and likely inconsequential to others), I also prefer Sequoia over previous iterations. The future of mac/iOS is visible on the horizon and I expect it to roll out in a steady series of well-considered upgrades. I was a die-hard Mojave holdout until two months ago; if anything, preferring Snow Leopard or iOS 6 or whatever (review screenshots) seems to be the more contrarian take when considering contemporary workflows, device interoperability, and aesthetic cohesiveness. It's like pining for a Powerbook G4 or iMac G3 – nostalgic curiosities, but personally, I'm glad we've moved on. Windows though... take me back to '98!
    - wruza 2y ago
      Interop and workflows could be added without rehashing and “aesthetics”. Skeuo and metal surfaces were peak designs, please don’t even start me with this “flat” nonsense again. It’s a complete crap proven countless times by non-computer people (eldery) trying to interact with it and fail.
audunw 2y ago
My favourite version of Windows was Windows 2000. It was stable, visually consistent and fairly simple. But Windows 11 is a massive improvement over Windows 2000 in many, many areas. Just because Windows 2000 was my favourite doesn’t mean I think it’s the best. It doesn’t even have built-in support for WiFi. I think they’re even moving towards something that could be my new favourite Windows. Windows 11 is the first Windows with a visual style that I actually find appealing, and they seem to be making some serious efforts to make it all visually consistent too. The new settings app has its flaws but if they just finish the work of supporting all the features of the old control centre and finally have a unified place to change settings, I would say it’ll be all-in-all better than Win2k. The GPU driver system and WSL2 are leaps and bounds beyond what Win2k could do. The built in support for virtual desktops and window arrangement is something I would never want to be without. Yeah, on the Mac side I remember Snow Leopard fondly. That doesn’t mean I think it’s the best. On Mac I see even less reason to think older versions of MacOS is better in any way. They’ve stayed visually pleasing and consistent, haven’t made any huge UI changes similar to Windows’s attempts at making a better start menu, and have added many genuinely useful features over the years.
benterix 2y ago
> it takes a focused effort, from talented individuals You see, that's exactly why I don't have high hopes about OpenAI. They came up with a state of the art GPT-4 that was slow and expensive to maintain, so they came up with this o1 that is basically a chain of cheap 4os, something that people used to do from the moment LLMs appeared. And they started calling GPT-4 a "legacy model". In the meantime Anthropic is steadily raising the bar with each iteration. But even there the efforts plateaued and what we have still has the inherent problems of LLMs, that is the ability to give completely wrong answers with amazing self-confidence.

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shepherdjerred 2y ago

I would pick Windows 11 (LTSC) over any prior version of Windows, and I would pick macOS Sequoia over any prior version of macOS.

015a 2y ago
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- shepherdjerred 2y ago
  It's uncharitable of you to consider my opinion as being contrarian versus being genuine preference. Alternatively you could have chosen to be curious about my response that deviates from your understanding. I've used Windows 97 onwards, macOS around Mavericks, and various desktop Linux distros from around 2013. I would have told you that I like Windows 11 (LTSC) because it is much more visually pleasing than 7/8/10. The OS works reliably and I overall enjoy using it much more than the Linux distros I tried out before the LTSC build was made available. I like macOS Sequoia (and iOS 18) because Siri has gotten substantially better and I'm excited about Apple Intelligence. iOS 18 adds RCS which has been great and I actually do like Photos quite a bit, but I only moved to iCloud Photos while I was on the beta, so I can't compare to the old Photos app.
  - Retric 2y ago
    That built in advertising is definitely aesthetically pleasing. It just makes the whole UI pop.
    - shepherdjerred 2y ago
      This is another unnecessarily snarky reply. I’ve specifically mentioned the LTSC build when mentioning Windows 11, which does not have the normal bloat. The consumer version of Windows 11 is terrible IMO, but that’s more a business decision than a technical one.
      - bruce511 2y ago
        It's also worth pointing out that advertising in Windows is localized (I suspect mostly in the US). I am outside the US, I'm running Windows 11, and I see no ads.
      - Retric 2y ago
        The LTSC build isn’t the totality of Windows 11, it’s even missing major features. You can defend advertising as ‘a business decision‘ but this is an actual product they are shipping as Windows 11. LTSC is also compromised due to business decisions, so there’s no clean option.
- _annum 2y ago
  Despite minor grievances (primarily UI related, and likely inconsequential to others), I also prefer Sequoia over previous iterations. The future of mac/iOS is visible on the horizon and I expect it to roll out in a steady series of well-considered upgrades. I was a die-hard Mojave holdout until two months ago; if anything, preferring Snow Leopard or iOS 6 or whatever (review screenshots) seems to be the more contrarian take when considering contemporary workflows, device interoperability, and aesthetic cohesiveness. It's like pining for a Powerbook G4 or iMac G3 – nostalgic curiosities, but personally, I'm glad we've moved on. Windows though... take me back to '98!
  - wruza 2y ago
    Interop and workflows could be added without rehashing and “aesthetics”. Skeuo and metal surfaces were peak designs, please don’t even start me with this “flat” nonsense again. It’s a complete crap proven countless times by non-computer people (eldery) trying to interact with it and fail.

audunw 2y ago

My favourite version of Windows was Windows 2000. It was stable, visually consistent and fairly simple. But Windows 11 is a massive improvement over Windows 2000 in many, many areas. Just because Windows 2000 was my favourite doesn’t mean I think it’s the best. It doesn’t even have built-in support for WiFi. I think they’re even moving towards something that could be my new favourite Windows. Windows 11 is the first Windows with a visual style that I actually find appealing, and they seem to be making some serious efforts to make it all visually consistent too. The new settings app has its flaws but if they just finish the work of supporting all the features of the old control centre and finally have a unified place to change settings, I would say it’ll be all-in-all better than Win2k. The GPU driver system and WSL2 are leaps and bounds beyond what Win2k could do. The built in support for virtual desktops and window arrangement is something I would never want to be without. Yeah, on the Mac side I remember Snow Leopard fondly. That doesn’t mean I think it’s the best. On Mac I see even less reason to think older versions of MacOS is better in any way. They’ve stayed visually pleasing and consistent, haven’t made any huge UI changes similar to Windows’s attempts at making a better start menu, and have added many genuinely useful features over the years.

benterix 2y ago

> it takes a focused effort, from talented individuals You see, that's exactly why I don't have high hopes about OpenAI. They came up with a state of the art GPT-4 that was slow and expensive to maintain, so they came up with this o1 that is basically a chain of cheap 4os, something that people used to do from the moment LLMs appeared. And they started calling GPT-4 a "legacy model". In the meantime Anthropic is steadily raising the bar with each iteration. But even there the efforts plateaued and what we have still has the inherent problems of LLMs, that is the ability to give completely wrong answers with amazing self-confidence.