> And, no Client Side Decorations. XFCE died for me the day they adopted it. Inconsistency-hell ensued. Not sure what you mean. We have CSDs available for peo

> And, no Client Side Decorations. XFCE died for me the day they adopted it. Inconsistency-hell ensued. Not sure what you mean. We have CSDs available for people who like it, but they can be turned on and off. If you're talking about random GTK apps that run on Xfce, there's not much we can do about that; we don't set app policy. That's one of the nicer things about Wayland, though: there's a way for the compositor to tell applications "I'll draw the decorations". On X11 there's no protocol for that, only a way for an app to tell the window manager it wants to draw its own, without a way for the WM to say "no, don't do it".