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As a counter point the growth in non-alcoholic beers is staggering. Also non-alcoholic spirits (believe it or not) are going to be a big deal according to a bud

As a counter point the growth in non-alcoholic beers is staggering. Also non-alcoholic spirits (believe it or not) are going to be a big deal according to a buddy in the space.

__s 2y ago
If I could get a mojito mocktail that stung I'd be so pleased. Current mocktails taste like juice. Mojito mocktail is closest atm since it can be lower sugar & lean on mint/lime for kick, but still something missing
- unethical_ban 2y ago
  I think the "phony negroni" and Ghia brand NA drinks have a kind of Italian herbal punch to them that feels good on the tongue if you are someone who wants a boozy feel vs. sweet/juicy.
cyberax 2y ago
I'm really surprised that Kvass ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kvass https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kvass - a fermented non-alcoholic drink) is not popular in the Western world. It tastes much better than beer.
- jamal-kumar 2y ago
  It's about as alcoholic as perhaps kombucha or maybe a strong kefir, somewhere between 1-2 percent. With no tolerance, I definitely catch a nice little buzz if I have any of these things, they're about all I will enjoy at this point though. There's speculation that letting kids drink the stuff has been a contributor to heavy alcoholism in the former soviet union [1] [1] https://academic.oup.com/alcalc/article-abstract/44/5/529/182649 https://academic.oup.com/alcalc/article-abstract/44/5/529/18...
  - cyberax 2y ago
    Kvass can be as low as 0.5% alcohol by weight, but traditional methods put it around 1%. The widely sold kvass in Soviet Union was 1% ABV. I don't drink at all, so I'm pretty sensitive to the effects of alcohol. I can't detect them at all after drinking kvass. I could feel them after drinking a home-made and even some store-bought kombucha. > There's speculation that letting kids drink the stuff has been a contributor to heavy alcoholism in the former soviet union I doubt it. Other countries also have a tradition of fermented drinks, often based on milk, that are just as alcoholic.

As a counter point the growth in non-alcoholic beers is staggering. Also non-alcoholic spirits (believe it or not) are going to be a big deal according to a buddy in the space.

__s 2y ago

If I could get a mojito mocktail that stung I'd be so pleased. Current mocktails taste like juice. Mojito mocktail is closest atm since it can be lower sugar & lean on mint/lime for kick, but still something missing

unethical_ban 2y ago
I think the "phony negroni" and Ghia brand NA drinks have a kind of Italian herbal punch to them that feels good on the tongue if you are someone who wants a boozy feel vs. sweet/juicy.

cyberax 2y ago

I'm really surprised that Kvass ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kvass https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kvass - a fermented non-alcoholic drink) is not popular in the Western world. It tastes much better than beer.

jamal-kumar 2y ago
It's about as alcoholic as perhaps kombucha or maybe a strong kefir, somewhere between 1-2 percent. With no tolerance, I definitely catch a nice little buzz if I have any of these things, they're about all I will enjoy at this point though. There's speculation that letting kids drink the stuff has been a contributor to heavy alcoholism in the former soviet union [1] [1] https://academic.oup.com/alcalc/article-abstract/44/5/529/182649 https://academic.oup.com/alcalc/article-abstract/44/5/529/18...
- cyberax 2y ago
  Kvass can be as low as 0.5% alcohol by weight, but traditional methods put it around 1%. The widely sold kvass in Soviet Union was 1% ABV. I don't drink at all, so I'm pretty sensitive to the effects of alcohol. I can't detect them at all after drinking kvass. I could feel them after drinking a home-made and even some store-bought kombucha. > There's speculation that letting kids drink the stuff has been a contributor to heavy alcoholism in the former soviet union I doubt it. Other countries also have a tradition of fermented drinks, often based on milk, that are just as alcoholic.