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I stopped drinking 10 years ago and noticed no change. Did not lose weight, did not improve cognitive ability.

by compiler-devel 2y ago

nsxwolf 2y ago
I also did not lose weight but I recover from roller coasters faster.
- thefz 2y ago
  I noticed something similar, in periods in which I don't drink at all, exercise-induced dizziness (when hitting zone 5 and staying there for a while) lasts less. Improved circulation?
Al-Khwarizmi 2y ago
I've never stopped (moderate) drinking, but I have sometimes spent periods of 3-6 months without drinking for various reasons (e.g. living in countries with expensive alcohol, and/or non-alcoholic beverages that tasted great, or during the pandemic lockdowns when I had no social life) and I have never noticed any change at all, so I'm always surprised by these accounts of stopping drinking being life-changing. I wonder if all these reports of various changes for the better after stopping drinking (moderately, of course, not talking about people with alcoholism problems) are just placebo effect or it's that people's bodies work differently and for some people a few beers or wines a week may be a big deal whereas others are unaffected.
- mmh0000 2y ago
  There is no way this is "just placebo" for me. I obsessively track everything I can, what I eat (https://cronometer.com/ https://cronometer.com/), how I sleep (https://apps.apple.com/us/app/autosleep-track-sleep-on-watch/id1164801111 https://apps.apple.com/us/app/autosleep-track-sleep-on-watch...), my exercise stats (apple fitness/health). Nights that I have alcohol can easily be seen in my sleep tracker (I fall asleep easily, but then have a very disrupted night of sleep). In my food tracker (Excessive carb intake). And in the fitness tracker (higher average heart-rate with lower distance/weight)
- lelanthran 2y ago
  > I wonder if all these reports of various changes for the better after stopping drinking (moderately, of course, not talking about people with alcoholism problems) I wouldn't be surprised if that's part of the problem; some families I know consider a glass or two of wine with every dinner to be "moderate". Every Saturday and Sunday involves at least two bottles of wine each of those days, and it's called "moderate". If they stopped their current habits I would not be surprised to hear that they saw a marked improvement in their health metrics. I call myself "moderate", and have maybe two or three drinks per year, and never more than a single drink per occasion. I would not expect to see any improvement in my health metrics by cutting that out.
thefz 2y ago
Same, every time I hear/read someone for whom quitting alcohol had such a life changing impact I wonder just how much were they drinking?

I stopped drinking 10 years ago and noticed no change. Did not lose weight, did not improve cognitive ability.

nsxwolf 2y ago

I also did not lose weight but I recover from roller coasters faster.

thefz 2y ago
I noticed something similar, in periods in which I don't drink at all, exercise-induced dizziness (when hitting zone 5 and staying there for a while) lasts less. Improved circulation?

Al-Khwarizmi 2y ago

I've never stopped (moderate) drinking, but I have sometimes spent periods of 3-6 months without drinking for various reasons (e.g. living in countries with expensive alcohol, and/or non-alcoholic beverages that tasted great, or during the pandemic lockdowns when I had no social life) and I have never noticed any change at all, so I'm always surprised by these accounts of stopping drinking being life-changing. I wonder if all these reports of various changes for the better after stopping drinking (moderately, of course, not talking about people with alcoholism problems) are just placebo effect or it's that people's bodies work differently and for some people a few beers or wines a week may be a big deal whereas others are unaffected.

mmh0000 2y ago
There is no way this is "just placebo" for me. I obsessively track everything I can, what I eat (https://cronometer.com/ https://cronometer.com/), how I sleep (https://apps.apple.com/us/app/autosleep-track-sleep-on-watch/id1164801111 https://apps.apple.com/us/app/autosleep-track-sleep-on-watch...), my exercise stats (apple fitness/health). Nights that I have alcohol can easily be seen in my sleep tracker (I fall asleep easily, but then have a very disrupted night of sleep). In my food tracker (Excessive carb intake). And in the fitness tracker (higher average heart-rate with lower distance/weight)
lelanthran 2y ago
> I wonder if all these reports of various changes for the better after stopping drinking (moderately, of course, not talking about people with alcoholism problems) I wouldn't be surprised if that's part of the problem; some families I know consider a glass or two of wine with every dinner to be "moderate". Every Saturday and Sunday involves at least two bottles of wine each of those days, and it's called "moderate". If they stopped their current habits I would not be surprised to hear that they saw a marked improvement in their health metrics. I call myself "moderate", and have maybe two or three drinks per year, and never more than a single drink per occasion. I would not expect to see any improvement in my health metrics by cutting that out.

thefz 2y ago

Same, every time I hear/read someone for whom quitting alcohol had such a life changing impact I wonder just how much were they drinking?