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>emulators were OK This has never been tested in court - the bleem case was before DMCA. Nintendo is always playing the copyright and security circumvention ca

>emulators were OK This has never been tested in court - the bleem case was before DMCA. Nintendo is always playing the copyright and security circumvention card and no one wants to fight it (understandably). Details of the Ryujinx case are not public but I guess they used the Yuzu case as a threat. Yuzu was killed because Nintendo sued Tropic Haze LLC (the company behind Yuzu) and issued a permanent injunction.

rendaw 2y ago
I can see that killing development by Tropic Haze, but the repositories are gone and not just stopped/locked/archived, and all forks seem to be eliminated too. I didn't think it was possible to that thoroughly kill an open source project, but nintendo apparently managed somehow.
- BowBun 2y ago
  FWIW, the emulator and source are all still circulating in less prominent places. It'll be back at some point.
- sunaookami 2y ago
  Because there is an injunction against the Yuzu source code and it's radioactive so no one touches it. There are a few forks but none active (and the devs of them just slap a new logo on it and call it a day).
  - ycombinatrix 2y ago
    torzu seems to be active: http://vub63vv26q6v27xzv2dtcd25xumubshogm67yrpaz2rculqxs7jlfqad.onion/torzu-emu/torzu http://vub63vv26q6v27xzv2dtcd25xumubshogm67yrpaz2rculqxs7jlf...
ChocolateGod 2y ago
I wouldn't be surprised if they are legal (e.g. look at Wine), but in a US court Nintendo will happily make it so expensive for a defendant that they have no choice but to concede.
benoau 2y ago
Apple lost trying to argue that iOS shouldn't be emulated too. https://www.engadget.com/apple-loss-lawsuit-corellium-120347028.html https://www.engadget.com/apple-loss-lawsuit-corellium-120347... > Apple sued security start-up Corellium last year, accusing it of violating copyright law for offering researchers access to “virtual” iPhones that can help them find bugs in iOS products. Now, a federal judge in Florida has tossed Apple’s copyright complaint, giving Corellium a major victory in its legal battle against the tech giant.
- rahimnathwani 2y ago
  Corellium doesn't emulate iOS. It emulates the hardware so it can install iOS.
  - LocalH 2y ago
    Ryujinx doesn't emulate the Switch OS. It emulates the hardware so it can install the Switch OS. In other words, that's a distinction without a difference.

rendaw 2y ago

I can see that killing development by Tropic Haze, but the repositories are gone and not just stopped/locked/archived, and all forks seem to be eliminated too. I didn't think it was possible to that thoroughly kill an open source project, but nintendo apparently managed somehow.

BowBun 2y ago
FWIW, the emulator and source are all still circulating in less prominent places. It'll be back at some point.
sunaookami 2y ago
Because there is an injunction against the Yuzu source code and it's radioactive so no one touches it. There are a few forks but none active (and the devs of them just slap a new logo on it and call it a day).
- ycombinatrix 2y ago
  torzu seems to be active: http://vub63vv26q6v27xzv2dtcd25xumubshogm67yrpaz2rculqxs7jlfqad.onion/torzu-emu/torzu http://vub63vv26q6v27xzv2dtcd25xumubshogm67yrpaz2rculqxs7jlf...

ChocolateGod 2y ago

I wouldn't be surprised if they are legal (e.g. look at Wine), but in a US court Nintendo will happily make it so expensive for a defendant that they have no choice but to concede.

benoau 2y ago

Apple lost trying to argue that iOS shouldn't be emulated too. https://www.engadget.com/apple-loss-lawsuit-corellium-120347028.html https://www.engadget.com/apple-loss-lawsuit-corellium-120347... > Apple sued security start-up Corellium last year, accusing it of violating copyright law for offering researchers access to “virtual” iPhones that can help them find bugs in iOS products. Now, a federal judge in Florida has tossed Apple’s copyright complaint, giving Corellium a major victory in its legal battle against the tech giant.

rahimnathwani 2y ago
Corellium doesn't emulate iOS. It emulates the hardware so it can install iOS.
- LocalH 2y ago
  Ryujinx doesn't emulate the Switch OS. It emulates the hardware so it can install the Switch OS. In other words, that's a distinction without a difference.