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In all honesty, the screen sharing situation (and other stuff) in Wayland is currently so brittle that I consider XFCE (my daily driver) lagging behind in its a

by fb03 2y ago

In all honesty, the screen sharing situation (and other stuff) in Wayland is currently so brittle that I consider XFCE (my daily driver) lagging behind in its adoption a feature.

jrm4 2y ago
Ditto. In terms of other stuff, I'm thinking about x2go, which I still use religiously? I'm curious, is Wayland anywhere on this?
treve 2y ago
I'm curious where you're having trouble. It seemed to me that this was quite bad at first (completely broken) and every application had to add explicit support, but I've had no problem with Firefox, Zoom and Slack recently. Just Microsoft Teams, but webcams don't even work in Teams.
- hackyhacky 2y ago
  Not the GP, but I have a workflow that depends on the functionality in x11vnc, which allows me to script sharing of individual windows, regions, or desktops. AFAIK, nothing comparable exists in Wayland, and there isn't even the possibility to bring something like that to non-wlroots environments. So I'm stuck on X11 for now.
  - sweeter 2y ago
    There's really nothing that can be said then but I personally use `waypipe` like this `waypipe ssh user@127.0.0.1 sway` so that I can run remote sessions and it works amazingly. I sometimes use it to run GUI apps like thunar on my home laptop with tailscale when Im not at home. its basically `ssh -x` https://manpages.opensuse.org/Tumbleweed/waypipe/waypipe.1.en.html https://manpages.opensuse.org/Tumbleweed/waypipe/waypipe.1.e...
  - sanqui 2y ago
    Check out waypipe. It's not compatible with every piece of software, but when it works, it's like one of those magic "run x application over the network" legends except it actually works well.
- OvbiousError 2y ago
  I'm on wayland, have had no issue screen-sharing over teams. Webcam works for me, but only if it was plugged in before teams started.
badgersnake 2y ago
I’ve got whole screen sharing working in sway, and I don’t dare touch it. Not sure if individual window / tab sharing is even a thing.
- fb03 2y ago
  It is, but with a whole slew of tweaks to pull it off. It's a mess. ...I get it that Wayland is the future and all, that it has features we need as an OS to get to the next level, but I feel there should be no rush to do it, and I feel a strong push for Wayland in distros right now, even with all these little broken things all over the place.
  - wkat4242 2y ago
    Well I don't think the pace of Wayland introduction can be called "a rush" :) I'm still on X11 myself for the time being as my OS doesn't support wayland properly yet (it runs but not with KDE)
prmoustache 2y ago
wayland screen sharing has been solved like 4 years ago and would work already at the time with workarounds. I remember when we got confined and were sent home, I could not screen share in MS teams on chrome out of the box but a few minutes of search gave me the chrome flags to enable and I just created a new local desktop file to start it up with the right flags Since then the only things that have been missing is HDR support and color calibration. It sucks to not have them ready but they are only really used by a tiny fraction of the users so for 99.9% of the users wayland works fine.

by fb03 2y ago

In all honesty, the screen sharing situation (and other stuff) in Wayland is currently so brittle that I consider XFCE (my daily driver) lagging behind in its adoption a feature.

jrm4 2y ago

Ditto. In terms of other stuff, I'm thinking about x2go, which I still use religiously? I'm curious, is Wayland anywhere on this?

treve 2y ago

I'm curious where you're having trouble. It seemed to me that this was quite bad at first (completely broken) and every application had to add explicit support, but I've had no problem with Firefox, Zoom and Slack recently. Just Microsoft Teams, but webcams don't even work in Teams.

hackyhacky 2y ago
Not the GP, but I have a workflow that depends on the functionality in x11vnc, which allows me to script sharing of individual windows, regions, or desktops. AFAIK, nothing comparable exists in Wayland, and there isn't even the possibility to bring something like that to non-wlroots environments. So I'm stuck on X11 for now.
- sweeter 2y ago
  There's really nothing that can be said then but I personally use `waypipe` like this `waypipe ssh user@127.0.0.1 sway` so that I can run remote sessions and it works amazingly. I sometimes use it to run GUI apps like thunar on my home laptop with tailscale when Im not at home. its basically `ssh -x` https://manpages.opensuse.org/Tumbleweed/waypipe/waypipe.1.en.html https://manpages.opensuse.org/Tumbleweed/waypipe/waypipe.1.e...
- sanqui 2y ago
  Check out waypipe. It's not compatible with every piece of software, but when it works, it's like one of those magic "run x application over the network" legends except it actually works well.
OvbiousError 2y ago
I'm on wayland, have had no issue screen-sharing over teams. Webcam works for me, but only if it was plugged in before teams started.

badgersnake 2y ago

I’ve got whole screen sharing working in sway, and I don’t dare touch it. Not sure if individual window / tab sharing is even a thing.

fb03 2y ago
It is, but with a whole slew of tweaks to pull it off. It's a mess. ...I get it that Wayland is the future and all, that it has features we need as an OS to get to the next level, but I feel there should be no rush to do it, and I feel a strong push for Wayland in distros right now, even with all these little broken things all over the place.
- wkat4242 2y ago
  Well I don't think the pace of Wayland introduction can be called "a rush" :) I'm still on X11 myself for the time being as my OS doesn't support wayland properly yet (it runs but not with KDE)

prmoustache 2y ago

wayland screen sharing has been solved like 4 years ago and would work already at the time with workarounds. I remember when we got confined and were sent home, I could not screen share in MS teams on chrome out of the box but a few minutes of search gave me the chrome flags to enable and I just created a new local desktop file to start it up with the right flags Since then the only things that have been missing is HDR support and color calibration. It sucks to not have them ready but they are only really used by a tiny fraction of the users so for 99.9% of the users wayland works fine.