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This is fine as a technical exercise, but trusting Oracle is a very bad idea for numerous reasons if your data is not mirrored or backed up elsewhere.

bjw4 2y ago
How come? Have you had a bad experience with Oracle?
- Wowfunhappy 2y ago
  If any long-term users (say 10+ years) have had a good experience with Oracle, I would like to hear from them!
  - Dalewyn 2y ago
    VirtualBox.
    - doubled112 2y ago
      Unless one of your employees downloaded the extension pack and now Oracle is after you.
- tchbnl 2y ago
  Oracle is not known for its generosity.
  - NikolaNovak 2y ago
    I find that Oracle has tremendous generosity on individual level. That's how people become familiar with their products and services. It's when you're in production and particularly as a billion+ dollar company that screws get properly tightened! But from the time I was a student in 90s to occasional dabbler now, I find their free / personal / individual / non-prod offerings to in fact be extremely generous.
- luma 2y ago
  Famously, the most litigious and generally obnoxious to deal with enterprise software company on the planet. Or ale doesn’t have customers, they have hostages.
- keyle 2y ago
  I take it you've never worked with Oracle.
- tossit444 2y ago
  Sudden suspensions with no chance to appeal or explanation, regardless if you were a paying customer or just a free tier user. It's ridiculous.
- hackeraccount 2y ago
  Oracle is the worst.
diggan 2y ago
Trusting any single actor with your data is a bad idea, no matter if it's Oracle, Cloudflare or $CurrentInternetDarling.
- OutOfHere 2y ago
  Different levels of trust can be placed in different providers for different types of data. Oracle is however at the bottom of the list with regard to trust.
  - diggan 2y ago
    > Different levels of trust Sufficiently different that you wouldn't backup your data at more locations? I don't think there is a single provider I'd trust that much, at least for data I really need to be still exist while I'm alive.
    - OutOfHere 2y ago
      Yes, some paid ones that encrypt the data and have been in business for many years. They're not publicly listed in the stock market, and so they don't have to put up with the self-destructing demands of shareholders
      - diggan 2y ago
        Interesting, you're certainly more brave than me :) One of the places I used for backups been around for 2 decades, I still wouldn't trust them enough to store my only copy of something.
        OutOfHere 2y ago
        I use mirroring and version control for the most important files, just not for files that I can possibly do without, but yes, it would be good to have.
to3k 2y ago
We are talking about nextcloud so backup of everything is on all of your devices with are sync to it

bjw4 2y ago

How come? Have you had a bad experience with Oracle?

Wowfunhappy 2y ago
If any long-term users (say 10+ years) have had a good experience with Oracle, I would like to hear from them!
- Dalewyn 2y ago
  VirtualBox.
  - doubled112 2y ago
    Unless one of your employees downloaded the extension pack and now Oracle is after you.
tchbnl 2y ago
Oracle is not known for its generosity.
- NikolaNovak 2y ago
  I find that Oracle has tremendous generosity on individual level. That's how people become familiar with their products and services. It's when you're in production and particularly as a billion+ dollar company that screws get properly tightened! But from the time I was a student in 90s to occasional dabbler now, I find their free / personal / individual / non-prod offerings to in fact be extremely generous.
luma 2y ago
Famously, the most litigious and generally obnoxious to deal with enterprise software company on the planet. Or ale doesn’t have customers, they have hostages.
keyle 2y ago
I take it you've never worked with Oracle.
tossit444 2y ago
Sudden suspensions with no chance to appeal or explanation, regardless if you were a paying customer or just a free tier user. It's ridiculous.
hackeraccount 2y ago
Oracle is the worst.

diggan 2y ago

Trusting any single actor with your data is a bad idea, no matter if it's Oracle, Cloudflare or $CurrentInternetDarling.

OutOfHere 2y ago
Different levels of trust can be placed in different providers for different types of data. Oracle is however at the bottom of the list with regard to trust.
- diggan 2y ago
  > Different levels of trust Sufficiently different that you wouldn't backup your data at more locations? I don't think there is a single provider I'd trust that much, at least for data I really need to be still exist while I'm alive.
  - OutOfHere 2y ago
    Yes, some paid ones that encrypt the data and have been in business for many years. They're not publicly listed in the stock market, and so they don't have to put up with the self-destructing demands of shareholders
    - diggan 2y ago
      Interesting, you're certainly more brave than me :) One of the places I used for backups been around for 2 decades, I still wouldn't trust them enough to store my only copy of something.
      - OutOfHere 2y ago
        I use mirroring and version control for the most important files, just not for files that I can possibly do without, but yes, it would be good to have.

to3k 2y ago

We are talking about nextcloud so backup of everything is on all of your devices with are sync to it