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I hadn't heard of the X on the passport thing, that's super cool. I'm guessing it'll cause issues at borders all over even if it's not banned, just from confuse

I hadn't heard of the X on the passport thing, that's super cool. I'm guessing it'll cause issues at borders all over even if it's not banned, just from confused border agents. Not to mention on airline websites...

wkat4242 2y ago
Airline websites are mostly OK. Border crossings too. Even though X-passports are very rare, they are becoming much less so and of course customs officials deal with thousands every day so they still un into them regularly. I don't have one yet but I heard no problems with them from other NB people in decent countries. As for no being permitted in Dubai and Qatar etc, I consider this more as a 'feature' than a 'bug'. These countries are known for harrassing non-gender-conformant people anyway and this way I have a fully documented way to refuse a Dubai transfer if my work wants to send me somewhere with a Dubai connection. Rather than pleading because I don't want to run the risk I can now just give them a hard and documented NO. My employer publicly prides itself on being LGBTQI+ inclusive so they can't refuse that. The biggest problems centered around this seem to involve more local government. Old local council or federal systems not able to deal with it, or the communication between those systems not handling it properly because some ancient validator routine somewhere drops the message, leading in all sorts of procedural gaps. It's a bit reminiscent of the Y2K problem.
- qingcharles 2y ago
  Are you USA? Is it possible to get two passports X and non-X? A lot of countries will let you have a second identical passport so you don't try to enter Iran with a passport stamped from Israeli border control. How about getting another citizenship with another passport in your birth gender just for these rare occasions? I understand your policy against these countries, but countries aren't their citizens, and I know some really amazing people in these countries who absolutely don't support their government's policies (at least in private). The "underground" LGBTQ population of the Middle East is enormous. In fact, my experience is that in private a significant amount of the citizens don't support these policies. Is there a single household in Dubai or Qatar that doesn't have a VPN subscription to get around their national firewalls?

wkat4242 2y ago

Airline websites are mostly OK. Border crossings too. Even though X-passports are very rare, they are becoming much less so and of course customs officials deal with thousands every day so they still un into them regularly. I don't have one yet but I heard no problems with them from other NB people in decent countries. As for no being permitted in Dubai and Qatar etc, I consider this more as a 'feature' than a 'bug'. These countries are known for harrassing non-gender-conformant people anyway and this way I have a fully documented way to refuse a Dubai transfer if my work wants to send me somewhere with a Dubai connection. Rather than pleading because I don't want to run the risk I can now just give them a hard and documented NO. My employer publicly prides itself on being LGBTQI+ inclusive so they can't refuse that. The biggest problems centered around this seem to involve more local government. Old local council or federal systems not able to deal with it, or the communication between those systems not handling it properly because some ancient validator routine somewhere drops the message, leading in all sorts of procedural gaps. It's a bit reminiscent of the Y2K problem.

qingcharles 2y ago
Are you USA? Is it possible to get two passports X and non-X? A lot of countries will let you have a second identical passport so you don't try to enter Iran with a passport stamped from Israeli border control. How about getting another citizenship with another passport in your birth gender just for these rare occasions? I understand your policy against these countries, but countries aren't their citizens, and I know some really amazing people in these countries who absolutely don't support their government's policies (at least in private). The "underground" LGBTQ population of the Middle East is enormous. In fact, my experience is that in private a significant amount of the citizens don't support these policies. Is there a single household in Dubai or Qatar that doesn't have a VPN subscription to get around their national firewalls?