5 ms·
Imagine the bottom 14000 managers from Amazon on the loose getting jobs elsewhere and spreading the worst parts of its culture around in other companies. Effect
by tgma 2y ago
Imagine the bottom 14000 managers from Amazon on the loose getting jobs elsewhere and spreading the worst parts of its culture around in other companies. Effectively unleashes a biological virus at other FAANGs and smaller companies. Good job Amazon.
- linotype 2y agoTo the contrary, the ex-Amazon managers I’ve worked with explicitly tell me they avoid implementing ideas from Amazon in terms of management.
- 39896880 2y agoYes. Ex-Amazon here. The part where I horse-trade putting engineers on PIP so I can keep my UAR up -- I don't spread that to other companies because it's toxic as fuck and leads to my friends on H1Bs getting deported.
- phendrenad2 2y agoWhat makes you think they're really the bottom?
- tgma 2y agoWhat makes you think otherwise, statistically?
- phendrenad2 2y agoThere isn't any reason to believe that companies can or even want to identify the lowest performers, especially when doing mass headcount reduction.
- tgma 2y agoThere isn't any reason to believe... There's no reason to believe the sky is blue. ...even want to identify... Short of cuts of an entire division, sounds like fairy tales. Now, they might want to claim they have or have not done so; that's a different issue.
- phendrenad2 2y agoWhat are you even talking about?
- tgma 2y agoI am simply suggesting your assertion is self-evidently false.
- phendrenad2 2y agoBy that logic, so is yours. We should talk to the World's Records people to see if we set a record for biggest waste of time.
- tgma 2y agoPerhaps you should. It's obvious that all companies at very least desire to know who is the high performer and who is not. To deny that for a trillion dollar successful company is just ridiculous.
- phendrenad2 2y agoWell, I wish for a lot of things, doesn't mean I get them.
- tgma 2y agoWell, this is what you stated previously: "there isn't any reason to believe that companies can or even <<<<want>>>> to identify the lowest performers." And yes, there is at least some evidence to believe they do that identification somewhat successfully: their business is working.
- phendrenad2 2y agoYes when I go to the store, I hope to find a million dollar gemstone in my loaf of bread. But is that evidence that my trip to the store was meaningfully motivated by this? Anyway, I've made my point every way possible now, it's time to leave it and let those who understand, understand.
- belter 2y agoIs it any worst than the ex Facebook and Google employees? "Meta to Lay Off Another 10,000 Workers" - https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/14/technology/meta-facebook-layoffs.html https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/14/technology/meta-facebook-... "Google lays off hundreds of ‘Core’ employees" - https://www.cnbc.com/2024/05/01/google-cuts-hundreds-of-core-workers-moves-jobs-to-india-mexico.html https://www.cnbc.com/2024/05/01/google-cuts-hundreds-of-core...
- tgma 2y agoGoogle and Facebook do not indoctrinate their managers with Amazon management policies.