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Based on Cloudflare R2 S3 object storage costs for 33GB of WordPress plugins, for a private WordPress plugin mirror would cost less than US$0.35/month though wi

Based on Cloudflare R2 S3 object storage costs for 33GB of WordPress plugins, for a private WordPress plugin mirror would cost less than US$0.35/month though will rise as new plugin versions get downloaded and stored and if under generous R2 Class A/B write and read operation free monthly quota, the R2 operation costs would be free. The Cloudflare Worker costs based on past 24hrs metrics was 765K Worker requests at median of 2.1ms CPU time. So with 100K Worker requests/day free, cost would essentially be the $5/month Cloudflare Worker subscription fee as overages won't apply under their generous paid US$5/month subscription plan includes up to 10 million requests per month at average 10ms average CPU time. All up, it would be US$5.35/month starting costs which will rise as number of WordPress plugins and Worker usage increases as outlined here. Cloudflare CDN bandwidth is free of charge, so no need to worry about egress bandwidth fees. Shockingly affordable.

compootr 2y ago
> Cloudflare CDN bandwidth is free of charge free of charge, until sales shows up: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40481808 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40481808
- viraptor 2y ago
  Yeah, it's very much a "try it, first one is free" type of business.
- vundercind 2y ago
  Also, unless something's changed, the free tier only technically covers "web content". Going outside HTML and related material directly supporting the display of ordinary web pages (javascript referenced by your HTML, some light image serving, CSS) puts you outside what's covered by the TOS. You can't count on it for that at all. IIRC that also goes for the other "self serve" plans, so includes paid plans. You need an enterprise plan (probably $5k+/m) to distribute non-Web-page-related files without violating the TOS. People often get away with it as long as they don't go too wild, but you're in even riskier territory than one already is using non-enterprise Cloudflare.
  - esdf 2y ago
    Cloudflare does allow R2 (& some other "Developer Platform" services) for non-HTML content. They made some TOS changes in the past to be more explicit about it.
  - yawnxyz 2y ago
    wait a minute the docs say (https://developers.cloudflare.com/r2 https://developers.cloudflare.com/r2) You can use R2 for multiple scenarios, including but not limited to: Storage for cloud-native applications Cloud storage for web content Storage for podcast episodes Data lakes (analytics and big data) Cloud storage output for large batch processes, such as machine learning model artifacts or data sets
    - compootr 2y ago
      Yes. The html-only is for services you don't have an extra agreement on. r2 has thar extra asterisk since you're paying per operation
      - yawnxyz 2y ago
        thanks for the clarification, I didn't realize they split them into two different buckets of users / usages
- initplus 2y ago
  It's not "until sales shows up", it's until regulators start causing problems for Cloudflare because you are using Cloudflare infra to host a grey market online gambling website.
  - compootr 2y ago
    Notwithstanding the content of the site, I think it's pretty scummy to send an email insinuating that you're stressing CF's network, only to get some non-specific information, and a call with sales.
metadat 2y ago
If you keep scrolling down, the projected costs for operating this thing are estimated between $40 - $7000USD per month. What if I instead buy a cheap 10TB hard drive and crawl at a more relaxed rate on a commodity PC at home? The cost goes way, way down after the initial investment, to near zero.. after one year the amortized H/W costs would be around $30 per month. Additionally, 1 gigabit+ FTTH unmetered symmetric fiber Internet lines are ever more available at a competitive price.
- nolok 2y ago
  If you're going at it this way then it's easy to male it worth it 8 gigabit unmetered symmetric fiber for 50e a month 500e initial one time purchase for a ryzen 6800u in mini desktop factor form with 32 gb of memory and 512 nvme gb drive. Proxmox installation. Electricity at 0,017 kwh with a 15w cpu. You can now hosts dozens of such projects. Upgrades for later include : an UPS for eventual power cut or surge, a small NAS for mass storage, a second mini desktop for Proxmox redondancy and replication. Since fiber lines have becomes the norm self hosting stuff at home has been a breeze and a joy for small projects. Extra bonus : jellyfin, pihole, home assistant, and all sort of other goodies can easily get a spot on that proxmox.

compootr 2y ago

> Cloudflare CDN bandwidth is free of charge free of charge, until sales shows up: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40481808 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40481808

viraptor 2y ago
Yeah, it's very much a "try it, first one is free" type of business.
vundercind 2y ago
Also, unless something's changed, the free tier only technically covers "web content". Going outside HTML and related material directly supporting the display of ordinary web pages (javascript referenced by your HTML, some light image serving, CSS) puts you outside what's covered by the TOS. You can't count on it for that at all. IIRC that also goes for the other "self serve" plans, so includes paid plans. You need an enterprise plan (probably $5k+/m) to distribute non-Web-page-related files without violating the TOS. People often get away with it as long as they don't go too wild, but you're in even riskier territory than one already is using non-enterprise Cloudflare.
- esdf 2y ago
  Cloudflare does allow R2 (& some other "Developer Platform" services) for non-HTML content. They made some TOS changes in the past to be more explicit about it.
- yawnxyz 2y ago
  wait a minute the docs say (https://developers.cloudflare.com/r2 https://developers.cloudflare.com/r2) You can use R2 for multiple scenarios, including but not limited to: Storage for cloud-native applications Cloud storage for web content Storage for podcast episodes Data lakes (analytics and big data) Cloud storage output for large batch processes, such as machine learning model artifacts or data sets
  - compootr 2y ago
    Yes. The html-only is for services you don't have an extra agreement on. r2 has thar extra asterisk since you're paying per operation
    - yawnxyz 2y ago
      thanks for the clarification, I didn't realize they split them into two different buckets of users / usages
initplus 2y ago
It's not "until sales shows up", it's until regulators start causing problems for Cloudflare because you are using Cloudflare infra to host a grey market online gambling website.
- compootr 2y ago
  Notwithstanding the content of the site, I think it's pretty scummy to send an email insinuating that you're stressing CF's network, only to get some non-specific information, and a call with sales.

metadat 2y ago

If you keep scrolling down, the projected costs for operating this thing are estimated between $40 - $7000USD per month. What if I instead buy a cheap 10TB hard drive and crawl at a more relaxed rate on a commodity PC at home? The cost goes way, way down after the initial investment, to near zero.. after one year the amortized H/W costs would be around $30 per month. Additionally, 1 gigabit+ FTTH unmetered symmetric fiber Internet lines are ever more available at a competitive price.

nolok 2y ago
If you're going at it this way then it's easy to male it worth it 8 gigabit unmetered symmetric fiber for 50e a month 500e initial one time purchase for a ryzen 6800u in mini desktop factor form with 32 gb of memory and 512 nvme gb drive. Proxmox installation. Electricity at 0,017 kwh with a 15w cpu. You can now hosts dozens of such projects. Upgrades for later include : an UPS for eventual power cut or surge, a small NAS for mass storage, a second mini desktop for Proxmox redondancy and replication. Since fiber lines have becomes the norm self hosting stuff at home has been a breeze and a joy for small projects. Extra bonus : jellyfin, pihole, home assistant, and all sort of other goodies can easily get a spot on that proxmox.