We've clearly reached the limit of whatever common ground we can find here and will have to agree to disagree on what we each find intuitive and plausible. All

We've clearly reached the limit of whatever common ground we can find here and will have to agree to disagree on what we each find intuitive and plausible. All I hope to accomplish is to move you an inch away from the stance that materialism is the only reasonable way to think. That is what I mean by arrogance. Cheers