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> Ignore those who don't "do". I'm actually pretty ok with ignoring those who don't "think" before they "do", not that the OP is one of those people, but "doin

> Ignore those who don't "do". I'm actually pretty ok with ignoring those who don't "think" before they "do", not that the OP is one of those people, but "doing" as a mark of virtue seems fairly likely destructive

zq2240 2y ago
Thank you for all your advice.
moralestapia 2y ago
One day of doing is worth a billion years of thinking. The world is material, not imaginary.
- Nullabillity 2y ago
  There's nothing admirable about charging head-first in the wrong direction.
  - moralestapia 2y ago
    Perhaps you are a psychic but that is not my case. "Charging head-first", even in the wrong direction, is the only thing worth doing.
    - RHSeeger 2y ago
      That type of logic is generally used to address the problem of being unwilling to act, for fear of making the decision; and it's reasonable in that context. But taking the time to understand the situation so that you can make the best decision possible (with the available information) is almost always beneficial.
- brailsafe 2y ago
  Ya, I guess, or you could just measure twice and cut once
- RHSeeger 2y ago
  I would argue just the opposite. Thinking without doing accomplishes very little. Doing without thinking might accomplish something, or it might be utterly destructive and take 1000x the amount of "doing" (and a lot of thinking) to undo.
  - brailsafe 2y ago
    Agreed, but would add that deciding not to do something is an underappreciated action of doing. If the thinking process results in deciding your deployable resources can be better used, how would that not also be "doing". The act of relentless material production seems so wasteful tasteless.
    - moralestapia 2y ago
      You and GP and all others in this thread of comments. Can you share anything you've done so that we can all see it?
      - RHSeeger 2y ago
        I'm not sure I see the point in that, since you wouldn't have the context involved in each decision to know if we made a good one. Unless you're specifically looking to identify that we haven't done anything _you_ consider valuable, so our opinion that thinking before we act is important isn't valid. I can say - I have a wonder family that loves me (and vice versa) - I have a place to live and can pay the bills - The people I work with are glad I'm working with them (and vice versa) - I've been a software developer for decades and I get to solve new and (what I find) interesting problems on a fairly regular basis. Most of that problem solving involves thinking; with a minor bit of doing at the end. So overall, I'm pretty happy with where my life philosophy has taken me.
        moralestapia 2y ago
        Those things are great things to have, unironically. You're blessed.

zq2240 2y ago

Thank you for all your advice.

moralestapia 2y ago

One day of doing is worth a billion years of thinking. The world is material, not imaginary.

Nullabillity 2y ago
There's nothing admirable about charging head-first in the wrong direction.
- moralestapia 2y ago
  Perhaps you are a psychic but that is not my case. "Charging head-first", even in the wrong direction, is the only thing worth doing.
  - RHSeeger 2y ago
    That type of logic is generally used to address the problem of being unwilling to act, for fear of making the decision; and it's reasonable in that context. But taking the time to understand the situation so that you can make the best decision possible (with the available information) is almost always beneficial.
brailsafe 2y ago
Ya, I guess, or you could just measure twice and cut once
RHSeeger 2y ago
I would argue just the opposite. Thinking without doing accomplishes very little. Doing without thinking might accomplish something, or it might be utterly destructive and take 1000x the amount of "doing" (and a lot of thinking) to undo.
- brailsafe 2y ago
  Agreed, but would add that deciding not to do something is an underappreciated action of doing. If the thinking process results in deciding your deployable resources can be better used, how would that not also be "doing". The act of relentless material production seems so wasteful tasteless.
  - moralestapia 2y ago
    You and GP and all others in this thread of comments. Can you share anything you've done so that we can all see it?
    - RHSeeger 2y ago
      I'm not sure I see the point in that, since you wouldn't have the context involved in each decision to know if we made a good one. Unless you're specifically looking to identify that we haven't done anything _you_ consider valuable, so our opinion that thinking before we act is important isn't valid. I can say - I have a wonder family that loves me (and vice versa) - I have a place to live and can pay the bills - The people I work with are glad I'm working with them (and vice versa) - I've been a software developer for decades and I get to solve new and (what I find) interesting problems on a fairly regular basis. Most of that problem solving involves thinking; with a minor bit of doing at the end. So overall, I'm pretty happy with where my life philosophy has taken me.
      - moralestapia 2y ago
        Those things are great things to have, unironically. You're blessed.