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throw-the-towel 2y ago
There never was. Twitter was always a cancer, and if Musk does manage to drive it into the ground then he deserves a Nobel Peace Prize for this.
- ben_w 2y ago
  If it worked for Kissinger, I don't see why not.
- tbrownaw 2y ago
  It has longposts now, so that's an improvement at least.
  - arromatic 2y ago
    How ? Are long text for a social media that has 24 hour lifetime and exclusive to premium users worth it . I would be nice if it was available for all , since sometimes you need more than 280 character to express your self .
- always_imposter 2y ago
  >Twitter was always a cancer You know they don't literally mean that right? This joke is seriously getting tired imo. Twitter actually has an established space in discourse and it shapes conversations or used to shape conversations. It has literally helped people get resources during times of crisis, most recent event where twitter helped people real time was during Covid in 2021, here in India. People were exchanging info real time for oxygen cylinders and during this crisis they made a special section for it as well which updated very frequently so people could get help or give help. When our govt didn't do shit, Twitter helped. There are many such examples, Twitter is(was) always at the fore front whenever there was some war/event happening and reporters preferred to post updates on twitter real time instead of their news boards. You might not see value in it, but if it goes away, I doubt that space will be filled easily. Threads is for entertainment. I don't see any of the "threads" on that platform making to mainstream discourse. Let's please stop making this tired argument. Twitter is really important for humanity whether you believe it or not.
  - talldayo 2y ago
    Twitter shouldn't be privately owned. That's the problem - Jack Dorsey wasn't able to promise a non-censored town hall and neither was Musk. They are running a business that is inherently at-odds with the ideal of informing people. They can't make money just providing Twitter - as a business it doesn't work. The utility Twitter provided isn't written-off, but it really shouldn't have happened on a for-profit advertising platform. What people are unwilling to accept is that Twitter was lightning in a bottle - it won't come back because everyone learned the lesson that it doesn't make money. You can either move onto a radical platform that tries to fix the original sin (eg. Mastodon/BlueSky/Nostr) or you can stick with the huddled masses that rely on a censored and monetized platform to speak freely online.
    - ipaddr 2y ago
      The radical platform alternatives still censor and often to the whims of a random person. It's like a reddit subreddit or wikipedia article: you are censored by the moods of the admin. They are privately owned.
      - talldayo 2y ago
        The solution is easy; host your own instance. Federated solutions let you put your money where your mouth is and host yourself to your own content. If what you have to say is considered useful, you'll be a viral figure in no time. Allow-only instances won't show your content but chances are they won't show most content. These are hugboxy environments you'd probably not want to be around anyways (and they sure don't want to be around you). Block-only instances will show your content as long as it doesn't piss them off. If you are being racist or posting illegal content, you're gonna get muted. They have absolutely no obligation to propagate your content if you're not going to reach bare-minimum decorum.
        Freedom2 2y ago
        > If what you have to say is considered useful, you'll be a viral figure in no time. The assumption that useful speech goes viral is incredibly misjudged.
- wruza 2y ago
  Thankfully twitter format will autodie soon with newer generations.
- ClumsyPilot 2y ago
  > Twitter was always a cancer, Twitter is the ONLY social network that is actually social, and attempts to connect strangers. Contrary to Facebook, etc where you need to be ‘friends’ first.
  - wruza 2y ago
    This isn’t even at odds. Connecting strangers historically was one of the main recipes for social fireworks.
  - threeseed 2y ago
    Reddit, Threads, Mastodon, Bluesky, Instagram, TikTok etc. Even Facebook has features for connecting strangers e.g. Groups.
    - arromatic 2y ago
      Reddit ? that's a forum for content generation Mastodon ? No one knows you unless you have other socials Instagram ? it blocks pc traffic , no retweet Threads ? maybe the only one viable but it's meta Facebook ? Um good luck Tiktok ? It's just videos , it's far from soical media .
matheusmoreira 2y ago
X's crowdsourced fact checking is a really good feature. It's worth using for that alone. The pathological liars at the brazilian government would get fact checked on a daily basis.

There never was. Twitter was always a cancer, and if Musk does manage to drive it into the ground then he deserves a Nobel Peace Prize for this.

ben_w 2y ago
If it worked for Kissinger, I don't see why not.
tbrownaw 2y ago
It has longposts now, so that's an improvement at least.
- arromatic 2y ago
  How ? Are long text for a social media that has 24 hour lifetime and exclusive to premium users worth it . I would be nice if it was available for all , since sometimes you need more than 280 character to express your self .
always_imposter 2y ago
>Twitter was always a cancer You know they don't literally mean that right? This joke is seriously getting tired imo. Twitter actually has an established space in discourse and it shapes conversations or used to shape conversations. It has literally helped people get resources during times of crisis, most recent event where twitter helped people real time was during Covid in 2021, here in India. People were exchanging info real time for oxygen cylinders and during this crisis they made a special section for it as well which updated very frequently so people could get help or give help. When our govt didn't do shit, Twitter helped. There are many such examples, Twitter is(was) always at the fore front whenever there was some war/event happening and reporters preferred to post updates on twitter real time instead of their news boards. You might not see value in it, but if it goes away, I doubt that space will be filled easily. Threads is for entertainment. I don't see any of the "threads" on that platform making to mainstream discourse. Let's please stop making this tired argument. Twitter is really important for humanity whether you believe it or not.
- talldayo 2y ago
  Twitter shouldn't be privately owned. That's the problem - Jack Dorsey wasn't able to promise a non-censored town hall and neither was Musk. They are running a business that is inherently at-odds with the ideal of informing people. They can't make money just providing Twitter - as a business it doesn't work. The utility Twitter provided isn't written-off, but it really shouldn't have happened on a for-profit advertising platform. What people are unwilling to accept is that Twitter was lightning in a bottle - it won't come back because everyone learned the lesson that it doesn't make money. You can either move onto a radical platform that tries to fix the original sin (eg. Mastodon/BlueSky/Nostr) or you can stick with the huddled masses that rely on a censored and monetized platform to speak freely online.
  - ipaddr 2y ago
    The radical platform alternatives still censor and often to the whims of a random person. It's like a reddit subreddit or wikipedia article: you are censored by the moods of the admin. They are privately owned.
    - talldayo 2y ago
      The solution is easy; host your own instance. Federated solutions let you put your money where your mouth is and host yourself to your own content. If what you have to say is considered useful, you'll be a viral figure in no time. Allow-only instances won't show your content but chances are they won't show most content. These are hugboxy environments you'd probably not want to be around anyways (and they sure don't want to be around you). Block-only instances will show your content as long as it doesn't piss them off. If you are being racist or posting illegal content, you're gonna get muted. They have absolutely no obligation to propagate your content if you're not going to reach bare-minimum decorum.
      - Freedom2 2y ago
        > If what you have to say is considered useful, you'll be a viral figure in no time. The assumption that useful speech goes viral is incredibly misjudged.
wruza 2y ago
Thankfully twitter format will autodie soon with newer generations.
ClumsyPilot 2y ago
> Twitter was always a cancer, Twitter is the ONLY social network that is actually social, and attempts to connect strangers. Contrary to Facebook, etc where you need to be ‘friends’ first.
- wruza 2y ago
  This isn’t even at odds. Connecting strangers historically was one of the main recipes for social fireworks.
- threeseed 2y ago
  Reddit, Threads, Mastodon, Bluesky, Instagram, TikTok etc. Even Facebook has features for connecting strangers e.g. Groups.
  - arromatic 2y ago
    Reddit ? that's a forum for content generation Mastodon ? No one knows you unless you have other socials Instagram ? it blocks pc traffic , no retweet Threads ? maybe the only one viable but it's meta Facebook ? Um good luck Tiktok ? It's just videos , it's far from soical media .

matheusmoreira 2y ago

X's crowdsourced fact checking is a really good feature. It's worth using for that alone. The pathological liars at the brazilian government would get fact checked on a daily basis.