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I don't really think Firefox cares about having users. The one killer feature Chrome has is being able to access all your state by logging into your Chrome acc

by fud101 2y ago

I don't really think Firefox cares about having users. The one killer feature Chrome has is being able to access all your state by logging into your Chrome account. Firefox refuses to provide this basic service which will allow you to seamlessly use your data on Firefox and then eventually stop using Chrome. I wish Firefox nothing but the worst.

chgs 2y ago
My Firefox installs on my various computers have a shard profile, so what are you on about?
mdaniel 2y ago
I may be feeding the trolls, but not only is there a sync mechanism, at least with Firefox you can self-host[1] such a thing, thereby doubly ensuring the data isn't used for something you disagree with If you're going to say that Firefox doesn't care about having users, point out its just stunningly stupid memory usage, blatantly stale developer tools (that one hurts me the worst because the Chrome dev-tooling is actually open source, so there's nothing stopping them from actually having Best In Class dev tooling other than no-fucks-given), or the har-de-har-har that comes up periodically of bugs that have been open longer than a lot of developers have been alive 1: https://github.com/mozilla-services/syncstorage-rs#running-via-docker https://github.com/mozilla-services/syncstorage-rs#running-v...
- globular-toast 2y ago
  I find Firefox's memory usage and dev tooling better than Chrome.
- fud101 2y ago
  Don't care about self hosting. That's not a feature to me, it's a burden. I would rather some cloud provider do that for me, thankfully Google does it for free and the convenience is much appreciated. It's the same reason i'd put my personal code in Github than some hard drive in the basement which may die anytime.
  - mdaniel 2y ago
    Perhaps you interpreted my comment as that one must self-host, versus what I intended which is "you can use theirs, or you can use yours, depending on your paranoia level". I thought to include that distinction because some folks believe that Chrome is merely a data exfiltration and ad delivery vector created by the biggest Ad Tech on the planet and therefore don't trust them to be good stewards of arguably the most sensitive thing a modern user creates: browser history Of course one can just use Firefox Sync out of the box <https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/sync https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/sync>; even Mozilla has not yet stooped so low as to require opening a terminal just to use Firefox or its Sync component
    - fud101 2y ago
      Again, I don't care that Firefox wants me to build up my profile on one device. Then transfer that to some other device. I already have my profile. Let me login to my chrome profile and use it. I don't want to buy into your shitty ecosystem even if it gives freedom (that i dont want or care about).

by fud101 2y ago

chgs 2y ago

My Firefox installs on my various computers have a shard profile, so what are you on about?

mdaniel 2y ago

I may be feeding the trolls, but not only is there a sync mechanism, at least with Firefox you can self-host[1] such a thing, thereby doubly ensuring the data isn't used for something you disagree with If you're going to say that Firefox doesn't care about having users, point out its just stunningly stupid memory usage, blatantly stale developer tools (that one hurts me the worst because the Chrome dev-tooling is actually open source, so there's nothing stopping them from actually having Best In Class dev tooling other than no-fucks-given), or the har-de-har-har that comes up periodically of bugs that have been open longer than a lot of developers have been alive 1: https://github.com/mozilla-services/syncstorage-rs#running-via-docker https://github.com/mozilla-services/syncstorage-rs#running-v...

globular-toast 2y ago
I find Firefox's memory usage and dev tooling better than Chrome.
fud101 2y ago
Don't care about self hosting. That's not a feature to me, it's a burden. I would rather some cloud provider do that for me, thankfully Google does it for free and the convenience is much appreciated. It's the same reason i'd put my personal code in Github than some hard drive in the basement which may die anytime.
- mdaniel 2y ago
  Perhaps you interpreted my comment as that one must self-host, versus what I intended which is "you can use theirs, or you can use yours, depending on your paranoia level". I thought to include that distinction because some folks believe that Chrome is merely a data exfiltration and ad delivery vector created by the biggest Ad Tech on the planet and therefore don't trust them to be good stewards of arguably the most sensitive thing a modern user creates: browser history Of course one can just use Firefox Sync out of the box <https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/sync https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/sync>; even Mozilla has not yet stooped so low as to require opening a terminal just to use Firefox or its Sync component
  - fud101 2y ago
    Again, I don't care that Firefox wants me to build up my profile on one device. Then transfer that to some other device. I already have my profile. Let me login to my chrome profile and use it. I don't want to buy into your shitty ecosystem even if it gives freedom (that i dont want or care about).