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Well lets take Tesla, FSD and Elon as an example were a judge just ruled[0] that it's normal corporate puffery and not lies. [0] https://norcalrecord.com/stori

• Zigurd 2y ago
  The 5th circuit's loose attitude about deception is why all Elon's Xs live in Texas, or will soon. It's not trivial. "Mere puffery" has netted Tesla about $1B in FSD revenue.
• edgyquant 2y ago
  Elons lies are way different. He mostly is just optimistic about time frames. Since Sam Altman and ChatGPT became mainstream the narrative is about the literal end of the world and OpenAI, and their influencer army, has made doomerism their entire marketing strategy.
  • kevin_thibedeau 2y ago
    When you're taking in money it's not blind optimism. They sold gullible people a feature that was promised to be delivered in the near future. Ten years later it's clearly all a fraud.
  • moogly 2y ago
    > He mostly is just optimistic about time frames Perhaps if you have a selective memory. There's plenty of collections of straight-up set-in-stone falsehoods on the internet to find, if you're interested.