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If I walked into a branch of a legit bank, with a large deposit for a specific gov't account at Other_Bank, they would immediately be telling me things like "yo

If I walked into a branch of a legit bank, with a large deposit for a specific gov't account at Other_Bank, they would immediately be telling me things like "you need to go to Other_Bank", "that is not one of our account numbers", and "are you an idiot? - the court ordered you to deposit the fine to their Other_Bank account - we aren't going to get the court pissed at us, by accepting that deposit". Scammers and typo-squattering "banks" could be far more permissive. (Yes, electronic funds transfer - which presumably was done here - is different. But there are still specific account numbers and reference numbers and rules.)

szszrk 2y ago
What banking system do you describe? I know only one were banks behave like they don't know how to do wire transfers. In major parts of the world noone cares - if it's a valid transfer request they will just do it (fist checking sanction list and following regulations for edge cases like major politicians, high risk countries etc) . And holy shit, if a bank teller would request my court documents, that would be an instant newspaper material. Do you literally take your cash (or cashier checks, yuck) to the branch of the bank you have to "transfer" to?
- bell-cot 2y ago
  Google "how to wire money". You need to know the recipient's bank's exact routing number, and the recipient's account number there, and several other bank-specific details. "Just put this money in some account that is owned by the Brazilian Gov't" is not a valid wire transfer request.
  - szszrk 2y ago
    It feels like I'm in a candid camera at this point. The whole situation is peak Monthy Python from both Court and X. I know how to "wire money". All details should be provided by entity that requires you to send them money. And it's not always complex at all - IBAN exists - it has just a single number, that includes bank and checksum already. But the real story is: a) how on earth did court not provide proper details on how to pay fines? and/or b) how on earth a company managed to push 5 million dollars to an address they had not confirmed? In any company I worked for such incompetence would end up in severe legal and personal consequences.

szszrk 2y ago

What banking system do you describe? I know only one were banks behave like they don't know how to do wire transfers. In major parts of the world noone cares - if it's a valid transfer request they will just do it (fist checking sanction list and following regulations for edge cases like major politicians, high risk countries etc) . And holy shit, if a bank teller would request my court documents, that would be an instant newspaper material. Do you literally take your cash (or cashier checks, yuck) to the branch of the bank you have to "transfer" to?

bell-cot 2y ago
Google "how to wire money". You need to know the recipient's bank's exact routing number, and the recipient's account number there, and several other bank-specific details. "Just put this money in some account that is owned by the Brazilian Gov't" is not a valid wire transfer request.
- szszrk 2y ago
  It feels like I'm in a candid camera at this point. The whole situation is peak Monthy Python from both Court and X. I know how to "wire money". All details should be provided by entity that requires you to send them money. And it's not always complex at all - IBAN exists - it has just a single number, that includes bank and checksum already. But the real story is: a) how on earth did court not provide proper details on how to pay fines? and/or b) how on earth a company managed to push 5 million dollars to an address they had not confirmed? In any company I worked for such incompetence would end up in severe legal and personal consequences.