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It baffles me that people are still focusing on things like "we detected AI manipulation". You won't know when we've crossed the precipice and it's no longer d
by naming_the_user 2y ago
It baffles me that people are still focusing on things like "we detected AI manipulation".
You won't know when we've crossed the precipice and it's no longer detectable. By now it should be clear that video/audio evidence without some other form of provenance is untrustworthy.
If I write here
"I love yellow snow" - Barack H. Obama
You don't look for signs of manipulation, you just wouldn't trust it at all without corroboration, I can type anything I like.
- McDyver 2y agoI think that, at some level, people want to feel shocked and angry, or another strong (mainly negative) emotion. We use the opportunity to validate our biases and we become blind to evidence that would negate our strong feelings. It takes a conscious effort to evaluate and check the sources, once that visceral reaction occurs.
- beAbU 2y agoIt's called rage bait, and AI makes manufacturing rage bait oh so easy.
- wruza 2y agoI think gp’s idea is that rage bait has a vanishingly low threshold. You can accidentally enrage lots of communities today by simply saying things you’d think are natural (or by presenting bare facts).
- bell-cot 2y agoPretty much, though it seems to be a 2-way effect: A relative hair-trigger on whatever emotions and preoccupations a person already has. These days, for the 99%, there's no lack of negative ones. But if you've ever been around a little girl who's just recently discovered a fictional world full of magical talking ponies and such... The modern world's focus on no-risk, passive entertainment - at extreme scale. While our distant ancestors told stories around the campfire, and cheap novels & fiction magazines were pretty common over a century ago, the modern world's 24x7 feeds of TV, cable, streaming, social media, etc. is something else. And that content is for-sure not teaching self-awareness, nor self-control, nor prudence, nor skepticism, nor ...
- cen4 2y ago> It baffles me They are just marketing their products and services. They won't solve anything cause Media itself exists as Attention exploitation/manipulation service offered to the highest bidder. Global Human Attention is a finite natural resource. Its needs to be treated the same way we treat water and uranium. Sooner or later we will get there.
- croes 2y ago>You don't look for signs of manipulation, you just wouldn't trust it at all without corroboration, I can type anything I like. But people still trust what they hear and see. So audio and video clips get more trust than written words.
- Tempest1981 2y agoPresumably there is something in human instinct that trusting our eyes/ears helps us survive. Should we evolve to overcome this?
- wruza 2y agoWe can’t evolve overcome much more primitive shit. Don’t hold your breath here.
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- generic92034 2y agoI think the parent's point was that this should change, as faking audio and video clips is becoming almost as easy as writing articles with falsehoods.
- croes 2y agoWe alive still in times where some people believe anything they found written on the Internet. It takes a lot more time to get used to fake video and audio, especially in that mass and quality.
- naming_the_user 2y agoOur eyes and ears are trustworthy, what's not trustworthy are untrusted sources. The same applies to quotes. You can trust, well, as much as you can trust Hacker News, that what I've written is what I've written. But you can't trust that what I've written is a true representation of a real event.
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