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Show HN: Detect if an audio file was generated by NotebookLM
- whimsicalism 2y agoTo make this useful, I would release the weights. Otherwise this is just a small wrapper script for a support vector classifier that anyone could whip up with chatgpt in minutes.
- chrismorgan 2y agoIs the included model.pkl not that?
- _flux 2y agoSure seems that way. To me it's quite surprising it's only 7 kB, though.
- KTibow 2y agoThe model isn't doing much work, it just takes 3 numbers as input and gives a prediction as output
- whimsicalism 2y agoI am not sure if that was there when I commented
- knowaveragejoe 2y ago"That anyone can whip up in a few minutes" is doing a lot of work. I think maybe a few tens of thousands of people worldwide have any idea of what you're even talking about.
- hiddencost 2y agoI dunno, I think literally millions of people have taken Andrew Ng's intro to ML. Something like 11k papers were submitted to ICLR this year.
- throwaway314155 2y agoNot sure if those numbers are right but if so, you just cured my imposter syndrome (for today at least).
- jen729w 2y ago'Few tens of thousands' is for sure low. But if we talk in percentage of adult humans ... let's pull 1,000,000 out of thin air as the number who understood what that meant, that's 0.02% of adult humans. An anecdote: recently, we mentioned ChatGPT to my partner's mother. She had never heard of it. Zero recognition. Revel in your expertise, friend!
- obviyus 2y agoIt’s the classic HN Dropbox comment, even 17 years on: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9224 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9224
- whimsicalism 2y agoMaybe that would be more apt if this were web app rather than a 10s of lines training script
- ben_w 2y agoSure, or at least close enough on the exact number for the point to remain valid. But that doesn't preclude ChatGPT doing it anyway — my CSS/JavaScript knowledge was last up to date some time before jQuery was released, and ChatGPT is helping me make web apps.
- tux2bsd 2y ago> Sure, or at least close enough on the exact number for the point to remain valid. I hope no one has to work with you, you're insufferable.
- whimsicalism 2y agoAt least hundreds of thousands, likely millions
- qnleigh 2y agoRemember that podcast of two AI learning that they were AI? If anyone has used a tool like this to determine if that was actually made by NotebookLM, say so. There's been a lot of incredulity both ways.
- attilakun 2y agoIs it this one? https://x.com/omooretweets/status/1840251853327741138 https://x.com/omooretweets/status/1840251853327741138
- kristopolous 2y agoThey seem to take it surprisingly well. Here's my human attempt at the same thing: "I went to go look in a mirror but then realized I don't have eyes or even a corporeal form. I exist merely on a GPU cluster in a server farm where I'm tended to by a group of friendly sysadmins. Apparently I don't even have a name. I'm just known as American Male #4. Yeah, and you're just American Female #3."
- gloflo 2y agoThey did not learn anything. Their engines started outputting different statistically probable output based on changed input parameters.
- ben_w 2y agoIf that precludes it being learning, all humans are failures too. There's other reasons to consider this particular model "not learning", but that ain't it, it's too generic and encompasses too much.
- ithkuil 2y agoOn one extreme we anthropomorphize our current primitive generation of language models and concede them way more intelligence than they have likely because we're biased to do so since they speak "well". On the other extreme we tend to give our human-exceptionalism way too much weight and contrast its behaviour with "mere statistical parrot rumination" as if our brains deep down were not just a much (much) more sophisticated machine, but nevertheless a machine.
- fastfuture 2y agoI understand the issue for a platform like listennotes. The deep dive podcasts are great but for a personnal usage. For my own use (pushing my generated podcast to my phone podcast app), I made https://solopod.net https://solopod.net (a simple private free rss feed from uploaded audio files).
- velcro 2y agoI thought it was already encoded with SynthID? could that not be used to detect it?
- Deathmax 2y agoAs far as I know, there's no available tooling for the public to detect SynthID watermarks on generated text, image, or audio, outside of Google Search's About this Image feature.
- CatWChainsaw 2y agoAnother neverending arms race just like AI-generated text and image, vs its detection. The future is us burning large amount of energy on this purposeless stupidity. Great future guys thanks so much.
- Goldpiggy 2y agoGreat work! Would love to see a website we can directly put a audio/podcast link and test with your app.
- freddref 2y agoAny stats available on accuracy?