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> I don't know where people got the idea that vaccines prevent all infection, transmissions and symptoms. The government propaganda when the Covid vaccines wer

> I don't know where people got the idea that vaccines prevent all infection, transmissions and symptoms. The government propaganda when the Covid vaccines were launched said exactly that. Sure, people shouldn’t be so stupid to accept government propaganda at face value, but we know where people got the idea.

Terr_ 2y ago
> The government propaganda when the Covid vaccines were launched said exactly that. [Citation Needed] Give us some links to clear examples, if you're right it should be super-fast and easy. (As opposed to the unfair task of proving a negative.)
- ralph84 2y ago
  Sure. https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-business-health-government-and-politics-coronavirus-pandemic-46a270ce0f681caa7e4143e2ae9a0211 https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-business-health-governm... https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/05/21/politics/walensky-comments-cdc-guidance-fact-check https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/05/21/politics/walensky-comment...
  - Terr_ 2y ago
    So the "government propaganda" is... unprepared statements by individuals being live-interviewed, which were so unusual and against accepted-truth that they provoked immediate and public correction from mainstream news outlets, as well as corrections (or at least distancing) by the rest of the government? Even a brief look at the context shows those are "exceptions that prove the rule." I'm sure that for some people those incidents defined "what [they knew] the government said", but that would probably be because they put themselves into media-bubbles which excluded the greater mass of nuanced (and boring) health information, allowing only the "OMG look at this" scornful submissions by their Facebook friends.
    - ralph84 2y ago
      > So the "government propaganda" is... unprepared statements by individuals Yes, when those individuals are the president of the US and the director of the CDC presenting half-truths and exaggerations to further their agenda, that is textbook government propaganda.
  - barbazoo 2y ago
    For context, that was in June 2021, in August 2021 he said this: > Let me be clear: There are cases where vaccinated people do get COVID-19, but they are far less common than unvaccinated people getting COVID-19. And most importantly, their conditions are far less severe. https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/speeches-remarks/2021/08/23/remarks-by-president-biden-on-the-covid-19-response-and-the-vaccination-program-7/ https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/speeches-remarks/20...

Terr_ 2y ago

> The government propaganda when the Covid vaccines were launched said exactly that. [Citation Needed] Give us some links to clear examples, if you're right it should be super-fast and easy. (As opposed to the unfair task of proving a negative.)

ralph84 2y ago
Sure. https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-business-health-government-and-politics-coronavirus-pandemic-46a270ce0f681caa7e4143e2ae9a0211 https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-business-health-governm... https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/05/21/politics/walensky-comments-cdc-guidance-fact-check https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/05/21/politics/walensky-comment...
- Terr_ 2y ago
  So the "government propaganda" is... unprepared statements by individuals being live-interviewed, which were so unusual and against accepted-truth that they provoked immediate and public correction from mainstream news outlets, as well as corrections (or at least distancing) by the rest of the government? Even a brief look at the context shows those are "exceptions that prove the rule." I'm sure that for some people those incidents defined "what [they knew] the government said", but that would probably be because they put themselves into media-bubbles which excluded the greater mass of nuanced (and boring) health information, allowing only the "OMG look at this" scornful submissions by their Facebook friends.
  - ralph84 2y ago
    > So the "government propaganda" is... unprepared statements by individuals Yes, when those individuals are the president of the US and the director of the CDC presenting half-truths and exaggerations to further their agenda, that is textbook government propaganda.
- barbazoo 2y ago
  For context, that was in June 2021, in August 2021 he said this: > Let me be clear: There are cases where vaccinated people do get COVID-19, but they are far less common than unvaccinated people getting COVID-19. And most importantly, their conditions are far less severe. https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/speeches-remarks/2021/08/23/remarks-by-president-biden-on-the-covid-19-response-and-the-vaccination-program-7/ https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/speeches-remarks/20...