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Why is it a problem if the user searches/shops for diapers, and then advertisers show diaper ads? The person is interested in diapers after all, and you don't j

by Alupis 2y ago

Why is it a problem if the user searches/shops for diapers, and then advertisers show diaper ads? The person is interested in diapers after all, and you don't just buy diapers once.

crtasm 2y ago
Because it's none of their business what websites I'm looking at, especially completely unrelated websites. Remove the re-targeting and tracking then they don't need to know who's looking at the page.
- Alupis 2y ago
  You probably use a debit or credit card for a lot of your purchases - don't you?
  - endgame 2y ago
    Nope, I use cash. Besides "and yet, you participate in modern society therefore you must endorse all of its problems" is not a good take, IMHO.
    - Alupis 2y ago
      > Nope, I use cash. So you admit to being an extremist then. You probably find problems with a great deal of the modern world as well. You can't buy things online with cash. Your opinion on what people do online is therefore, colored significantly and is definitely out of touch with most people's experiences.
      - crtasm 2y ago
        A thread doesn't have to have a winner.
      - yjftsjthsd-h 2y ago
        Declaring anyone who disagrees with you (and acts on those ideas) as an extremist is a neat trick, but the only thing it actually gives you is an ad hominem.
        Alupis 2y ago
        A person who only uses cash for payments in 2024 is in fact, an extremist. A person who only uses cash cannot purchase things online either. This entire thread is about online shopping/advertising. A person who only uses cash has no relevant opinion on this topic.
  - crtasm 2y ago
    Most of the websites I look at I am not making any kind of payment. What is the point you're trying to make?
    - Alupis 2y ago
      So you're telling us you are receiving targeted advertisements for websites that don't even sell anything? Color me skeptical.
      - crtasm 2y ago
        No.. I really don't know what you're on about.
yjftsjthsd-h 2y ago
Couple reasons, depending on where those ads are: 1. If I search for diapers, and get ads for diapers, the usual pattern is to show the ads above the real search results, which tricks people into buying more expensive and/or lower quality products (after all, why else would the company need to pay to show up at the top of the search results?). 2. If I search for diapers on one site and get shown ads on a different site, then it follows that companies are trading information about me behind my back, which is not okay from a privacy perspective.
- Alupis 2y ago
  > which tricks people into buying more expensive and/or lower quality products > why else would the company need to pay to show up at the top of the search results? I dare say you do not understand how search results have worked for the past two decades. > then it follows that companies are trading information about me behind my back That is not how it works.
  - yjftsjthsd-h 2y ago
    Enlighten me, then; "no you're wrong" isn't really useful unless you fill it out a little bit.

by Alupis 2y ago

Why is it a problem if the user searches/shops for diapers, and then advertisers show diaper ads? The person is interested in diapers after all, and you don't just buy diapers once.

crtasm 2y ago

Because it's none of their business what websites I'm looking at, especially completely unrelated websites. Remove the re-targeting and tracking then they don't need to know who's looking at the page.

Alupis 2y ago
You probably use a debit or credit card for a lot of your purchases - don't you?
- endgame 2y ago
  Nope, I use cash. Besides "and yet, you participate in modern society therefore you must endorse all of its problems" is not a good take, IMHO.
  - Alupis 2y ago
    > Nope, I use cash. So you admit to being an extremist then. You probably find problems with a great deal of the modern world as well. You can't buy things online with cash. Your opinion on what people do online is therefore, colored significantly and is definitely out of touch with most people's experiences.
    - crtasm 2y ago
      A thread doesn't have to have a winner.
    - yjftsjthsd-h 2y ago
      Declaring anyone who disagrees with you (and acts on those ideas) as an extremist is a neat trick, but the only thing it actually gives you is an ad hominem.
      - Alupis 2y ago
        A person who only uses cash for payments in 2024 is in fact, an extremist. A person who only uses cash cannot purchase things online either. This entire thread is about online shopping/advertising. A person who only uses cash has no relevant opinion on this topic.
- crtasm 2y ago
  Most of the websites I look at I am not making any kind of payment. What is the point you're trying to make?
  - Alupis 2y ago
    So you're telling us you are receiving targeted advertisements for websites that don't even sell anything? Color me skeptical.
    - crtasm 2y ago
      No.. I really don't know what you're on about.

yjftsjthsd-h 2y ago

Couple reasons, depending on where those ads are: 1. If I search for diapers, and get ads for diapers, the usual pattern is to show the ads above the real search results, which tricks people into buying more expensive and/or lower quality products (after all, why else would the company need to pay to show up at the top of the search results?). 2. If I search for diapers on one site and get shown ads on a different site, then it follows that companies are trading information about me behind my back, which is not okay from a privacy perspective.

Alupis 2y ago
> which tricks people into buying more expensive and/or lower quality products > why else would the company need to pay to show up at the top of the search results? I dare say you do not understand how search results have worked for the past two decades. > then it follows that companies are trading information about me behind my back That is not how it works.
- yjftsjthsd-h 2y ago
  Enlighten me, then; "no you're wrong" isn't really useful unless you fill it out a little bit.