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You're quite literally describing textbook ADHD symptoms. If you haven't already, you may want to get assessed.

by jmyeet 2y ago

Apfel 2y ago
I'm someone who was perfectly able to use anki and learn chinese to a decent level with fairly intense combined-type untreated (at the time) ADHD. What you need is a compelling reason to learn (for me, it was the fear of letting down my wife by not being able to talk to her family).
- sn9 2y ago
  The ability to focus on some things but not others is perfectly consistent with ADHD. Disordered attention is the whole deal. You might find it easy but that doesn't mean others will.
  - atomicUpdate 2y ago
    > The ability to focus on some things but not others is perfectly consistent with ADHD. This is an insanely broad definition that literally the entire population would fall under. > You might find it easy but that doesn't mean others will. No one finds concentrating on any and every subject easy. Assuming this is due to ADHD, and not something in their control, is a cop out.
    - sn9 2y ago
      Overly literal bad faith interpretations are a waste of everyone's time. Try using context and engaging in good faith to deal with the intended meaning of someone's words or don't bother interacting.
- pessimizer 2y ago
  Ignore them. There's a belief system that sees a lack of success in anything that one wants to do as illness or witchcraft. For them, a person doesn't lack motivation to practice something because that thing is difficult and exhausting and one can't always see a sufficient reward (or chance of gaining that reward in a reasonable amount of time) in the end. For them, it's always going to be an illness or a curse that is stealing away your ability to achieve your true desires. They might be recommending pharma here, but it would be prayer on another forum, or more protein intake on a third.
  - Apocryphon 2y ago
    Perhaps the solution is to not be on forums. > Another came with sad eyes and said to him: "I don't know what my sickness is." "I know," Baudolino said. "You are slothful." "How can I be cured?" "Sloth appears the first time when you notice the slowness of the movement of the sun." "And then—?" "Never look at the sun."
watwut 2y ago
He is also describing perfectly normal average person.
thirdacc 2y ago
I have severe ADHD and do spaced repetition just fine, even when I'm not on my meds. The only reason I've paused my Japanese learning is sleep issues and stress from trying to find a tech job. What GP is describing sounds like the sort of resistance to tedium that can happen to anybody, not just to those with ADHD. The issue with software like Anki is that it can feel like a complete chore or like a fun game depending on how you use it and the quality of premade cards available. Only using SRS, doing it for 1hr+ straight with no breaks, and DIYing all the cards is how a lot of people use Anki, which is insane to me.

You're quite literally describing textbook ADHD symptoms. If you haven't already, you may want to get assessed.

by jmyeet 2y ago

You're quite literally describing textbook ADHD symptoms. If you haven't already, you may want to get assessed.

I'm someone who was perfectly able to use anki and learn chinese to a decent level with fairly intense combined-type untreated (at the time) ADHD. What you need is a compelling reason to learn (for me, it was the fear of letting down my wife by not being able to talk to her family).

sn9 2y ago
The ability to focus on some things but not others is perfectly consistent with ADHD. Disordered attention is the whole deal. You might find it easy but that doesn't mean others will.
- atomicUpdate 2y ago
  > The ability to focus on some things but not others is perfectly consistent with ADHD. This is an insanely broad definition that literally the entire population would fall under. > You might find it easy but that doesn't mean others will. No one finds concentrating on any and every subject easy. Assuming this is due to ADHD, and not something in their control, is a cop out.
  - sn9 2y ago
    Overly literal bad faith interpretations are a waste of everyone's time. Try using context and engaging in good faith to deal with the intended meaning of someone's words or don't bother interacting.
pessimizer 2y ago
Ignore them. There's a belief system that sees a lack of success in anything that one wants to do as illness or witchcraft. For them, a person doesn't lack motivation to practice something because that thing is difficult and exhausting and one can't always see a sufficient reward (or chance of gaining that reward in a reasonable amount of time) in the end. For them, it's always going to be an illness or a curse that is stealing away your ability to achieve your true desires. They might be recommending pharma here, but it would be prayer on another forum, or more protein intake on a third.
- Apocryphon 2y ago
  Perhaps the solution is to not be on forums. > Another came with sad eyes and said to him: "I don't know what my sickness is." "I know," Baudolino said. "You are slothful." "How can I be cured?" "Sloth appears the first time when you notice the slowness of the movement of the sun." "And then—?" "Never look at the sun."

watwut 2y ago

He is also describing perfectly normal average person.

thirdacc 2y ago

I have severe ADHD and do spaced repetition just fine, even when I'm not on my meds. The only reason I've paused my Japanese learning is sleep issues and stress from trying to find a tech job. What GP is describing sounds like the sort of resistance to tedium that can happen to anybody, not just to those with ADHD. The issue with software like Anki is that it can feel like a complete chore or like a fun game depending on how you use it and the quality of premade cards available. Only using SRS, doing it for 1hr+ straight with no breaks, and DIYing all the cards is how a lot of people use Anki, which is insane to me.