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IIRC, Apple employed the maintainer[1] of CUPS - which is/was available on MacOS for network printing, and has been available on Linux for even longer. I would

IIRC, Apple employed the maintainer[1] of CUPS - which is/was available on MacOS for network printing, and has been available on Linux for even longer. I would be surprised if the feature was not available on Linux for your printer. Edit: added footnote 1. The chief maintainer - not the only maintainer, between 2007-2019

traceroute66 2y ago
> which is/was available on MacOS for network printing Very much IS there in the background. See http://localhost:631/printers http://localhost:631/printers on your OS X machine.
- mcculley 2y ago
  I thought the default was disabled at some point. On my macOS laptop, I get: > Web Interface is Disabled > The web interface is currently disabled. Run “cupsctl WebInterface=yes” to enable it. But I cannot remember if I disabled that.
  - traceroute66 2y ago
    > But I cannot remember if I disabled that. Its ok, you're not going mad. ;) They disabled it by default as part of security hardening a few releases back. Probably around the same time they stopped shipping PHP and other stuff. CUPS is still running the printing in the background, its just the web UI that's been disabled. IIRC.
- iknowstuff 2y ago
  Safari can’t open the page “‎localhost:631/printers” because Safari can’t connect to the server “localhost”.
hawski 2y ago
I know about CUPS. There is no real alternative on Linux, is there? But it doesn't work like on macOS. I am sure they added some of magic on top. On macOS I think it either recognized my printer or I had to select it from a list. I don't remember which for sure. It was a few years ago. On Linux my Brother printer is not on the list. Brother offers a deb and rpm packages which may be obsolete for all I know. Then you have to install it manually. But in my case it never offered double sided printing. For years I am using a crutch in terms of Android driver and Brother's own app. This despite being offered by the producer doesn't offer double sided printing either. It doesn't even give ability to print in grayscale.
- bch 2y ago
  > I know about CUPS. There is no real alternative on Linux, is there? I don't know what lifting "real" is doing here, but lpd(8)[0] (line printer daemon) is what we used to use, and printcap(5)[1] to configure. It was general enough that you could make a music playlist system out of it[2]. [0] https://man.netbsd.org/lpd.8 https://man.netbsd.org/lpd.8 [1] https://man.netbsd.org/printcap.5 https://man.netbsd.org/printcap.5 [2] https://patrick.wagstrom.net/weblog/2003/05/23/lpdforfunandmp3playing/ https://patrick.wagstrom.net/weblog/2003/05/23/lpdforfunandm...
- nextos 2y ago
  Usually, drivers for similar printers might work. There are also generic driver sets like Gutenprint. Nonetheless, note that CUPS now discourages the use of any drivers, and support will be removed in the future. They claim that modern printers implement IPP and that should be the preferred protocol for printing. In IPP, printers advertise capabilities and are able to handle different high-level printing requests.
  - jorvi 2y ago
    That is wrong. CUPS recommends using the IPP protocol, but the IPP driver (called “IPP Everywhere”) is only available on relatively modern printers. Everything else still has to use drivers, mostly PPD.
    - nextos 2y ago
      Any CUPS daemon will raise the following warning on startup. I just copied this from my Systemd log: cupsd[873]: Printer drivers are deprecated and will stop working in a future version of CUPS. See https://github.com/OpenPrinting/cups/issues/103 Not saying this is the correct decision, but IPP Everywhere is available on most printers that are < 10 years old. Obviously, that rules out older printers, which are fairly common.
      - jorvi 2y ago
        I have a Brother printer from 2019 (HL 2340) that does not support IPP Everywhere. A lot of other printers from before ~2020 don’t either. You are (like so many other people) confusing IPP the protocol with IPP the driver, which is honestly not your fault and a terrible naming mistake. And like you mentioned, people have way older printers because if all you do is print monochrome and mostly text, a printer from 2004 doesn’t lack much aside from AirPrint / Mopria. Which is why I suspect CUPS will not deprecate at least PPD drivers.
freetanga 2y ago
I used this (CUPS) to add my Remarkable 1 as a Printer in MacOS. Worked like a charm, nothing to install on the laptop…
- xp84 2y ago
  Please share details! My wife has one of those, and this sounds like a great way to get more use out of it.
- Rocka24 2y ago
  What would be the use case of this? I have a remarkable 2 and there's the official Read on Remarkable extension that automatically sends a pdf of the page you're on or the book or whatever to your Remarkable. I'm not sure if it works on Remarkable 1 but there isn't any documentation on it being unsupported. extension link: https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/Read%20on%20reMarkable/bfhkfdnddlhfippjbflipboognpdpoeh https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/Read%20on%20reMarka...

traceroute66 2y ago

> which is/was available on MacOS for network printing Very much IS there in the background. See http://localhost:631/printers http://localhost:631/printers on your OS X machine.

mcculley 2y ago
I thought the default was disabled at some point. On my macOS laptop, I get: > Web Interface is Disabled > The web interface is currently disabled. Run “cupsctl WebInterface=yes” to enable it. But I cannot remember if I disabled that.
- traceroute66 2y ago
  > But I cannot remember if I disabled that. Its ok, you're not going mad. ;) They disabled it by default as part of security hardening a few releases back. Probably around the same time they stopped shipping PHP and other stuff. CUPS is still running the printing in the background, its just the web UI that's been disabled. IIRC.
iknowstuff 2y ago
Safari can’t open the page “‎localhost:631/printers” because Safari can’t connect to the server “localhost”.

hawski 2y ago

I know about CUPS. There is no real alternative on Linux, is there? But it doesn't work like on macOS. I am sure they added some of magic on top. On macOS I think it either recognized my printer or I had to select it from a list. I don't remember which for sure. It was a few years ago. On Linux my Brother printer is not on the list. Brother offers a deb and rpm packages which may be obsolete for all I know. Then you have to install it manually. But in my case it never offered double sided printing. For years I am using a crutch in terms of Android driver and Brother's own app. This despite being offered by the producer doesn't offer double sided printing either. It doesn't even give ability to print in grayscale.

bch 2y ago
> I know about CUPS. There is no real alternative on Linux, is there? I don't know what lifting "real" is doing here, but lpd(8)[0] (line printer daemon) is what we used to use, and printcap(5)[1] to configure. It was general enough that you could make a music playlist system out of it[2]. [0] https://man.netbsd.org/lpd.8 https://man.netbsd.org/lpd.8 [1] https://man.netbsd.org/printcap.5 https://man.netbsd.org/printcap.5 [2] https://patrick.wagstrom.net/weblog/2003/05/23/lpdforfunandmp3playing/ https://patrick.wagstrom.net/weblog/2003/05/23/lpdforfunandm...
nextos 2y ago
Usually, drivers for similar printers might work. There are also generic driver sets like Gutenprint. Nonetheless, note that CUPS now discourages the use of any drivers, and support will be removed in the future. They claim that modern printers implement IPP and that should be the preferred protocol for printing. In IPP, printers advertise capabilities and are able to handle different high-level printing requests.
- jorvi 2y ago
  That is wrong. CUPS recommends using the IPP protocol, but the IPP driver (called “IPP Everywhere”) is only available on relatively modern printers. Everything else still has to use drivers, mostly PPD.
  - nextos 2y ago
    Any CUPS daemon will raise the following warning on startup. I just copied this from my Systemd log: cupsd[873]: Printer drivers are deprecated and will stop working in a future version of CUPS. See https://github.com/OpenPrinting/cups/issues/103 Not saying this is the correct decision, but IPP Everywhere is available on most printers that are < 10 years old. Obviously, that rules out older printers, which are fairly common.
    - jorvi 2y ago
      I have a Brother printer from 2019 (HL 2340) that does not support IPP Everywhere. A lot of other printers from before ~2020 don’t either. You are (like so many other people) confusing IPP the protocol with IPP the driver, which is honestly not your fault and a terrible naming mistake. And like you mentioned, people have way older printers because if all you do is print monochrome and mostly text, a printer from 2004 doesn’t lack much aside from AirPrint / Mopria. Which is why I suspect CUPS will not deprecate at least PPD drivers.

freetanga 2y ago

I used this (CUPS) to add my Remarkable 1 as a Printer in MacOS. Worked like a charm, nothing to install on the laptop…

xp84 2y ago
Please share details! My wife has one of those, and this sounds like a great way to get more use out of it.
Rocka24 2y ago
What would be the use case of this? I have a remarkable 2 and there's the official Read on Remarkable extension that automatically sends a pdf of the page you're on or the book or whatever to your Remarkable. I'm not sure if it works on Remarkable 1 but there isn't any documentation on it being unsupported. extension link: https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/Read%20on%20reMarkable/bfhkfdnddlhfippjbflipboognpdpoeh https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/Read%20on%20reMarka...