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Impressive, yet more burning GPUs and pushing CO2 in the atmosphere just for stupid stuff that is only of interest to rich western people... I'd rather have th

by oulipo 2y ago

Impressive, yet more burning GPUs and pushing CO2 in the atmosphere just for stupid stuff that is only of interest to rich western people... I'd rather have those people work on climate change solutions

dyauspitr 2y ago
No thank you, I not going to let my beloved progressives be dragged into Luddism just so you can feel a little better about yourself through insignificant changes without a meaningful impact on the environment. Anything with true lasting effects will have to be top down like renewable resources/energy, EVs, viable alternatives to plastic, nuclear energy etc. The argument should never be about reducing energy usage, rather it should be about how we generate that energy in a clean, renewable way.
dievskiy 2y ago
> Impressive, yet more burning GPUs and pushing CO2 in the atmosphere just for stupid stuff that is only of interest to rich western people Better to spend 10x amount of energy on humans that will give the same result?
throwaway38543 2y ago
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Bloedcoins 2y ago
At least companies are behind it which can actually put the money were its needed and compensate it. At least microsoft and google are on a co2 neutral race. And all of these clusters doing something can also do research and partially do. Its valid critisism, but we need to stop co2 production on a lot of other industries before we do that for datacenters. Datacenters save a lot more co2 (just think about not having to drive to a bank to do bank business).
kkielhofner 2y ago
> burning GPUs and pushing CO2 in the atmosphere My startup develops AI for the nuclear power industry to drive process, documentation, and regulatory efficiency. We like to say "AI needs nuclear and nuclear needs AI". Big tech has finally realized/gone public that casually saying things like "we're building our next 1GW datacenter" is uhh, problematic[0]. For some time now there has been significant interest/activity in wiring up entire datacenters to nuclear reactors (existing Gen 2, SMRs, etc): https://finance.yahoo.com/news/nvidia-huang-says-nuclear-power-171024058.html https://finance.yahoo.com/news/nvidia-huang-says-nuclear-pow... https://www.ans.org/news/article-5842/amazon-buys-nuclearpowered-data-center-from-talen/ https://www.ans.org/news/article-5842/amazon-buys-nuclearpow... https://www.yahoo.com/news/microsoft-signs-groundbreaking-energy-deal-103018707.html https://www.yahoo.com/news/microsoft-signs-groundbreaking-en... https://www.cnbc.com/2024/09/10/oracle-is-designing-a-data-center-that-would-be-powered-by-three-small-nuclear-reactors.html https://www.cnbc.com/2024/09/10/oracle-is-designing-a-data-c... https://thehill.com/policy/technology/4913714-google-ceo-eyeing-electricity-from-nuclear-plants-for-its-data-centers/ https://thehill.com/policy/technology/4913714-google-ceo-eye... [0] - https://www.npr.org/2024/07/12/g-s1-9545/ai-brings-soaring-emissions-for-google-and-microsoft-a-major-contributor-to-climate-change https://www.npr.org/2024/07/12/g-s1-9545/ai-brings-soaring-e...
Zpalmtree 2y ago
utter loser mentality

by oulipo 2y ago

dyauspitr 2y ago

No thank you, I not going to let my beloved progressives be dragged into Luddism just so you can feel a little better about yourself through insignificant changes without a meaningful impact on the environment. Anything with true lasting effects will have to be top down like renewable resources/energy, EVs, viable alternatives to plastic, nuclear energy etc. The argument should never be about reducing energy usage, rather it should be about how we generate that energy in a clean, renewable way.

dievskiy 2y ago

> Impressive, yet more burning GPUs and pushing CO2 in the atmosphere just for stupid stuff that is only of interest to rich western people Better to spend 10x amount of energy on humans that will give the same result?

throwaway38543 2y ago

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Bloedcoins 2y ago

At least companies are behind it which can actually put the money were its needed and compensate it. At least microsoft and google are on a co2 neutral race. And all of these clusters doing something can also do research and partially do. Its valid critisism, but we need to stop co2 production on a lot of other industries before we do that for datacenters. Datacenters save a lot more co2 (just think about not having to drive to a bank to do bank business).

kkielhofner 2y ago

> burning GPUs and pushing CO2 in the atmosphere My startup develops AI for the nuclear power industry to drive process, documentation, and regulatory efficiency. We like to say "AI needs nuclear and nuclear needs AI". Big tech has finally realized/gone public that casually saying things like "we're building our next 1GW datacenter" is uhh, problematic[0]. For some time now there has been significant interest/activity in wiring up entire datacenters to nuclear reactors (existing Gen 2, SMRs, etc): https://finance.yahoo.com/news/nvidia-huang-says-nuclear-power-171024058.html https://finance.yahoo.com/news/nvidia-huang-says-nuclear-pow... https://www.ans.org/news/article-5842/amazon-buys-nuclearpowered-data-center-from-talen/ https://www.ans.org/news/article-5842/amazon-buys-nuclearpow... https://www.yahoo.com/news/microsoft-signs-groundbreaking-energy-deal-103018707.html https://www.yahoo.com/news/microsoft-signs-groundbreaking-en... https://www.cnbc.com/2024/09/10/oracle-is-designing-a-data-center-that-would-be-powered-by-three-small-nuclear-reactors.html https://www.cnbc.com/2024/09/10/oracle-is-designing-a-data-c... https://thehill.com/policy/technology/4913714-google-ceo-eyeing-electricity-from-nuclear-plants-for-its-data-centers/ https://thehill.com/policy/technology/4913714-google-ceo-eye... [0] - https://www.npr.org/2024/07/12/g-s1-9545/ai-brings-soaring-emissions-for-google-and-microsoft-a-major-contributor-to-climate-change https://www.npr.org/2024/07/12/g-s1-9545/ai-brings-soaring-e...

Zpalmtree 2y ago

utter loser mentality