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Impressive. It's only going to get better, faster, cheaper, easier.[a] Sooner than anyone could have expected, we'll be able to ask the machines: "Turn this b

by cs702 2y ago

Impressive. It's only going to get better, faster, cheaper, easier.[a] Sooner than anyone could have expected, we'll be able to ask the machines: "Turn this book into a two-hour movie with the likeness of [your favorite actor/actress] in the lead role." Sooner than anyone could have expected, we'll be able to have immersive VR experiences that are crafted to each person. Sooner than anyone could have expected, we won't be able to identify deepfakes anymore. We sure live in interesting times! --- [a] With apologies to Daft Punk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAjR4_CbPpQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAjR4_CbPpQ

kingofthehill98 2y ago
But mostly just porn.
- spacebanana7 2y ago
  I think AI porn is overhyped. We've had the ability to create realistic photos and short vids for over a year now and onlyfans creators are still doing fine. AI porn is just a niche for stuff that humans don't want to perform.
  - candiddevmike 2y ago
    I think AI porn is chocked full of fascinating moral quandaries. It kind of transcends all other types of GenAI for the amount of hard questions it asks society. As they say, porn is always the leading spear of technology. It's something to keep an eye on (no pun intended) to understand how society will accept/integrate generated content.
    - spacebanana7 2y ago
      It's definitely interesting from a moral and tech perspective. However, commercially it seems like a niche within the existing structures of porn. Mostly competing with the market for animated stuff. At least that's where it is right now, and its already at photorealistic parity with human content creators.
  - Bloedcoins 2y ago
    'still' We have not had the ability to create interesting ai porn vids yet. How would we? Meta just showed movie gen. But i'm pretty sure the short images of moving woman very subtle might gotten the one or other of. Just wait a little bit until you can really create wat you are looking for.
    - spacebanana7 2y ago
      HN doesn't feel like right place to share links, but have a look at what's available on fanvue. I'm not sure exactly what models the account owners use, but I think it's a mix of Stable diffusion video touched up with adobe tooling.
    - Der_Einzige 2y ago
      You obviously have not spent any time on civit.ai if you're saying that. What scares me most is that in my opinion, by far the best prompt writers are the ones who are deeply "motivated" and "experienced" with prompting. Often the best prompters have only one hand on the keyboard at a time.
      - Bloedcoins 2y ago
        I'm aware of civit.ai but i talk about short clips and i rechecked but didn't find short ai clips which are more than a model moving a little bit.
  - Der_Einzige 2y ago
    You have no idea how much butthurt their is from specifically artists who draw at the AI NSFW models which exist. I can trivially fine-tune and create more art from certain artists in an hour than they have produced themselves in their whole careers. This makes a lot of people very upset.
mywacaday 2y ago
Are we only a few years away from one person/small group made movies where the dialog, acting, location and special effects can be tweaked endlessly for a relatively low cost. If I was a studio exec I'd be worried.
- Workaccount2 2y ago
  If I was a human I'd be worried.
  - edgyquant 2y ago
    These are tools by and for humans
    - ceejayoz 2y ago
      So are nukes.
    - Workaccount2 2y ago
      I guess cats probably think we are tools for feeding them...
- adamc 2y ago
  I wouldn't be. How is any of this going to lead to meaningful art? I don't think you get "The Green Mile" from something like this.
  - meiraleal 2y ago
    > I wouldn't be. How is any of this going to lead to meaningful art? Local art, local actors, local animations telling stories about local culture. A netflix for every city, even neighborhoods. That's going to be crazy fun.
  - CuriouslyC 2y ago
    There are plenty of great outsider storytellers and artists. Youtube is proof of this. People mostly do comedy on youtube because that's what the medium supports on a low budget, but AI is going to change that.
ajkjk 2y ago
"we will be able to" -> "someone with a financial interest in my believing them says that we will be able to"
mon_in_the_moon 2y ago
You sound like two minute papers.
- ben_w 2y ago
  In enthusiasm perhaps, but when I play that in my own head with the voice of Dr. Károly Zsolnai-Fehér, he doesn't script his videos like that. I can't recall a single instance of him using triple repetition like that.
- throwawayk7h 2y ago
  what a time to be alive.
keiferski 2y ago
This sounds gimmicky and worth watching once or twice, then forgetting about. Worthwhile art will continue to be created from a specific person's/group's vision, not an algorithmically generated sum of personal preferences.
- dyauspitr 2y ago
  You’ll never be able to tell them apart.
  - williamcotton 2y ago
    You will if you go see someone pick on a guitar at an open mic!
  - keiferski 2y ago
    "Turn this book into a two-hour movie with the likeness of [your favorite actor/actress] in the lead role." This sounds marginally above fanfiction, so I do think it'll be very easy to tell them apart. "Terminator, except with Adam Sandler and set on Mars" is a cute, gimmicky idea, not a competitor to serious work.
    - gedy 2y ago
      Maybe, but I guarantee you this is going to get banned in the US for "safety" or "misinformation" reasons eventually (with large backing from Hollywood).
    - aenvoker 2y ago
      Well, yeah. If you explicitly try to come up with a cute, gimmicky idea, it's not going to be serious. Taste still matters regardless of paint, cameras or computers.
  - consteval 2y ago
    It depends on how shallow your understanding of media is. I'm sure this can be used to create entertaining movies that are fun and wacky. I don't think it can create impactful movies.
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indigoabstract 2y ago
It looks impressive, yet I'm not feeling very impressed. If only I could get as high as you do from watching those demo reels. Out of curiosity, what is it that people do with these things? Do they put them on TikTok?
- sangnoir 2y ago
  > It looks impressive, yet I'm not feeling very impressed. The demos was made by nerds (said with love) with a limited time window. Wait until the creatives get a hold of the tool.
ratedgene 2y ago
We are super cooked! I love the future!!!!
nakedrobot2 2y ago
that sounds awful. we need to start asking ourselves just because we can, do we need to fulfill all of our prurient desires?
animanoir 2y ago
this user is a prime example of "consoooooooooooooom!!!!!!!!!!"
conductr 2y ago
> Sooner than anyone could have expected, we'll be able to ask the machines: "Turn this book into a two-hour movie with the likeness of [your favorite actor/actress] in the lead role." I've been doing this with ChatGPT, except it's more of a "turn into a screenplay" then "create a graphic of each scene" and telling it how I want each character to look. It's works pretty well but results in more of a graphic novel than a movie. I'm definitely been waiting for the video version to be available!
sensanaty 2y ago
Does anyone other than PMs when thinking up user stories do shit like this or finds this kinda stuff desirable? It just sounds like a business person who doesn't have a life other than selling their product trying to think up "real user" usecases every time.
- bakugo 2y ago
  Nope. This is just like when cryptobros would regularly insist that cryptocurrencies would replace banks by the end of the decade. It's safe to assume that anyone who makes such wild predictions is a bagholder who stands to gain financially from said wild predictions coming true, even though they never will.
- thunderbird120 2y ago
  Frankly, yes. Many creative works these days require the effort and input of so many people, so much time, and so much money that they can't have a specific creative vision. Mediums like book, comics, indie movies, and very low budget indie games, where the the end product was created by the smallest number of people, have the most potential to be interesting and creative. They can take risks. This doesn't mean they will be good, most aren't, but it means that the range of quality is much broader, with some having a chance to shine in ways which big budget projects just can't. The issue with small teams and small budgets is that they are inherently limited in what they can create. Better tools allows smaller groups of people to make things that previously would have required an entire studio but without diluting the creative vision. Will this also result in a tidal wave of low effort garbage? Of course it will. But that can be ignored.
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by cs702 2y ago

kingofthehill98 2y ago

But mostly just porn.

spacebanana7 2y ago
I think AI porn is overhyped. We've had the ability to create realistic photos and short vids for over a year now and onlyfans creators are still doing fine. AI porn is just a niche for stuff that humans don't want to perform.
- candiddevmike 2y ago
  I think AI porn is chocked full of fascinating moral quandaries. It kind of transcends all other types of GenAI for the amount of hard questions it asks society. As they say, porn is always the leading spear of technology. It's something to keep an eye on (no pun intended) to understand how society will accept/integrate generated content.
  - spacebanana7 2y ago
    It's definitely interesting from a moral and tech perspective. However, commercially it seems like a niche within the existing structures of porn. Mostly competing with the market for animated stuff. At least that's where it is right now, and its already at photorealistic parity with human content creators.
- Bloedcoins 2y ago
  'still' We have not had the ability to create interesting ai porn vids yet. How would we? Meta just showed movie gen. But i'm pretty sure the short images of moving woman very subtle might gotten the one or other of. Just wait a little bit until you can really create wat you are looking for.
  - spacebanana7 2y ago
    HN doesn't feel like right place to share links, but have a look at what's available on fanvue. I'm not sure exactly what models the account owners use, but I think it's a mix of Stable diffusion video touched up with adobe tooling.
  - Der_Einzige 2y ago
    You obviously have not spent any time on civit.ai if you're saying that. What scares me most is that in my opinion, by far the best prompt writers are the ones who are deeply "motivated" and "experienced" with prompting. Often the best prompters have only one hand on the keyboard at a time.
    - Bloedcoins 2y ago
      I'm aware of civit.ai but i talk about short clips and i rechecked but didn't find short ai clips which are more than a model moving a little bit.
- Der_Einzige 2y ago
  You have no idea how much butthurt their is from specifically artists who draw at the AI NSFW models which exist. I can trivially fine-tune and create more art from certain artists in an hour than they have produced themselves in their whole careers. This makes a lot of people very upset.

mywacaday 2y ago

Are we only a few years away from one person/small group made movies where the dialog, acting, location and special effects can be tweaked endlessly for a relatively low cost. If I was a studio exec I'd be worried.

Workaccount2 2y ago
If I was a human I'd be worried.
- edgyquant 2y ago
  These are tools by and for humans
  - ceejayoz 2y ago
    So are nukes.
  - Workaccount2 2y ago
    I guess cats probably think we are tools for feeding them...
adamc 2y ago
I wouldn't be. How is any of this going to lead to meaningful art? I don't think you get "The Green Mile" from something like this.
- meiraleal 2y ago
  > I wouldn't be. How is any of this going to lead to meaningful art? Local art, local actors, local animations telling stories about local culture. A netflix for every city, even neighborhoods. That's going to be crazy fun.
- CuriouslyC 2y ago
  There are plenty of great outsider storytellers and artists. Youtube is proof of this. People mostly do comedy on youtube because that's what the medium supports on a low budget, but AI is going to change that.

ajkjk 2y ago

"we will be able to" -> "someone with a financial interest in my believing them says that we will be able to"

mon_in_the_moon 2y ago

You sound like two minute papers.

ben_w 2y ago
In enthusiasm perhaps, but when I play that in my own head with the voice of Dr. Károly Zsolnai-Fehér, he doesn't script his videos like that. I can't recall a single instance of him using triple repetition like that.
throwawayk7h 2y ago
what a time to be alive.

keiferski 2y ago

This sounds gimmicky and worth watching once or twice, then forgetting about. Worthwhile art will continue to be created from a specific person's/group's vision, not an algorithmically generated sum of personal preferences.

dyauspitr 2y ago
You’ll never be able to tell them apart.
- williamcotton 2y ago
  You will if you go see someone pick on a guitar at an open mic!
- keiferski 2y ago
  "Turn this book into a two-hour movie with the likeness of [your favorite actor/actress] in the lead role." This sounds marginally above fanfiction, so I do think it'll be very easy to tell them apart. "Terminator, except with Adam Sandler and set on Mars" is a cute, gimmicky idea, not a competitor to serious work.
  - gedy 2y ago
    Maybe, but I guarantee you this is going to get banned in the US for "safety" or "misinformation" reasons eventually (with large backing from Hollywood).
  - aenvoker 2y ago
    Well, yeah. If you explicitly try to come up with a cute, gimmicky idea, it's not going to be serious. Taste still matters regardless of paint, cameras or computers.
- consteval 2y ago
  It depends on how shallow your understanding of media is. I'm sure this can be used to create entertaining movies that are fun and wacky. I don't think it can create impactful movies.

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indigoabstract 2y ago

It looks impressive, yet I'm not feeling very impressed. If only I could get as high as you do from watching those demo reels. Out of curiosity, what is it that people do with these things? Do they put them on TikTok?

sangnoir 2y ago
> It looks impressive, yet I'm not feeling very impressed. The demos was made by nerds (said with love) with a limited time window. Wait until the creatives get a hold of the tool.

ratedgene 2y ago

We are super cooked! I love the future!!!!

nakedrobot2 2y ago

that sounds awful. we need to start asking ourselves just because we can, do we need to fulfill all of our prurient desires?

animanoir 2y ago

this user is a prime example of "consoooooooooooooom!!!!!!!!!!"

conductr 2y ago

> Sooner than anyone could have expected, we'll be able to ask the machines: "Turn this book into a two-hour movie with the likeness of [your favorite actor/actress] in the lead role." I've been doing this with ChatGPT, except it's more of a "turn into a screenplay" then "create a graphic of each scene" and telling it how I want each character to look. It's works pretty well but results in more of a graphic novel than a movie. I'm definitely been waiting for the video version to be available!

sensanaty 2y ago

Does anyone other than PMs when thinking up user stories do shit like this or finds this kinda stuff desirable? It just sounds like a business person who doesn't have a life other than selling their product trying to think up "real user" usecases every time.

bakugo 2y ago
Nope. This is just like when cryptobros would regularly insist that cryptocurrencies would replace banks by the end of the decade. It's safe to assume that anyone who makes such wild predictions is a bagholder who stands to gain financially from said wild predictions coming true, even though they never will.
thunderbird120 2y ago
Frankly, yes. Many creative works these days require the effort and input of so many people, so much time, and so much money that they can't have a specific creative vision. Mediums like book, comics, indie movies, and very low budget indie games, where the the end product was created by the smallest number of people, have the most potential to be interesting and creative. They can take risks. This doesn't mean they will be good, most aren't, but it means that the range of quality is much broader, with some having a chance to shine in ways which big budget projects just can't. The issue with small teams and small budgets is that they are inherently limited in what they can create. Better tools allows smaller groups of people to make things that previously would have required an entire studio but without diluting the creative vision. Will this also result in a tidal wave of low effort garbage? Of course it will. But that can be ignored.

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