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As I said elsewhere, I'm willing to cut those responders at the local level a bit of slack given that they're probably exhausted, overwhelmed, and not fully awa
by _djo_ 2y ago
As I said elsewhere, I'm willing to cut those responders at the local level a bit of slack given that they're probably exhausted, overwhelmed, and not fully aware of all the parts of the response. That's why it's important to offer your services via the organisations/groups/etc set up for it, rather than finding the nearest local first responders.
- actionfromafar 2y agoThat's why it's important to not have chiefs defaulting to fear of losing control vs fear of losing lives. You can see this in other chaotic situations, such as war. Command and control structures work great until they get overwhelmed by too many events on the ground, at which point they completely gridlock.
- ekianjo 2y ago> m willing to cut those responders at the local level a bit of slack Why don't you consider they may be incompetent as an option?
- _djo_ 2y agoWithout clear evidence of incompetence, why would I prioritise that option? The official's actions make sense in terms of existing and normal regulations and practices in disasters. Also, if you don't want to deal with local fire chiefs who don't know everything about the air operations, maybe don't approach them first and instead approach the actual units and organisations that are coordinating the air response.
- ekianjo 2y ago> Without clear evidence of incompetence Incompetence is the default state of every human organization. You rather need proof of competence not to assume it.
- jquery 2y agoIf you want to go by rules of thumb, the incompetence is a lot more likely to be the cowboy who went to the media to put first responders on blast because his “heroic” assistance was rerouted to the proper channels.
- kortilla 2y agoPeople in authority get no slack when they start abusing power to flex without having a good reason. This dude just didn’t like being challenged.
- _djo_ 2y agoWhen last did you run disaster response in any area for something of this scale? Emergency and disaster response organisations always ask people not to just rock up and do their own thing, but to go via the correct channels when volunteering for help. It's not an ego thing.
- kortilla 2y agoArrests for not respecting authority is an ego thing. If it was purely about preventing him from flying he could have reported to the FAA