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I think I agree. I host my own stuff on a home server, and I love that, but I'd never consider for a moment that my employer or clients should do anything simil

I think I agree. I host my own stuff on a home server, and I love that, but I'd never consider for a moment that my employer or clients should do anything similar. If you've got some spare time and the skills, alright. This can be a great way to save money. If you're especially confident in your ability to make this work and your margins are very thin, this might even be a wise move. You really can save a lot. But what if you get slammed with traffic? Can you scale in any direction? Do you have a means of balancing loads with your $1000 server? How will you ensure it's secure? What if it lights on fire (figuratively/literally)? The cloud does some useful stuff. You shouldn't always pay with your limbs for that, but in some cases, that stability, redundancy, scalability, and flexibility is worth every penny.

kybernetikos 2y ago
Getting slammed with traffic on a cloud system is the stuff of nightmares. Suddenly you wake up with a huge bill, and the tools to manage and restrict the cost are miserable in cloud systems because that is something they don't find useful. It's extremely cheap to get a system with a high speed link that for most use cases you'll never come close to saturating and in the unlikely event you ever do, then something is wrong and your service going slow or failing is better than trying to keep up and getting a huge bill out of the blue. Maybe not for every situation, but for most. Most of the truly skilled sysadmins I know recommend burst-to-the-cloud rather than pure cloud.
theshrike79 2y ago
I only self-host stuff I can live without if it goes down for a week or two. So no email, no important documents etc. live on my self-hosted services. If the motherboard on my Unraid server shorted out right now, I'd be slightly inconvenienced, but I wouldn't lose sleep over it. Everything actually important is (also) on a service I pay monthly for.

kybernetikos 2y ago

Getting slammed with traffic on a cloud system is the stuff of nightmares. Suddenly you wake up with a huge bill, and the tools to manage and restrict the cost are miserable in cloud systems because that is something they don't find useful. It's extremely cheap to get a system with a high speed link that for most use cases you'll never come close to saturating and in the unlikely event you ever do, then something is wrong and your service going slow or failing is better than trying to keep up and getting a huge bill out of the blue. Maybe not for every situation, but for most. Most of the truly skilled sysadmins I know recommend burst-to-the-cloud rather than pure cloud.

theshrike79 2y ago

I only self-host stuff I can live without if it goes down for a week or two. So no email, no important documents etc. live on my self-hosted services. If the motherboard on my Unraid server shorted out right now, I'd be slightly inconvenienced, but I wouldn't lose sleep over it. Everything actually important is (also) on a service I pay monthly for.