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Easter eggs are joie de vivre character against the tyranny of mediocre, boring doldrums and people who suck the life and joy out of everything cool and interes

Easter eggs are joie de vivre character against the tyranny of mediocre, boring doldrums and people who suck the life and joy out of everything cool and interesting, or can't grok art.

amiga386 2y ago
I agree. Also, Debian agrees, this is one of their most fundamental and important tools: $ apt | tail -1 This APT has Super Cow Powers. $ apt moo (__) (oo) /------\/ / | || * /\---/\ ~~ ~~ ..."Have you mooed today?"... Also, aptitude: $ aptitude --help | tail -1 This aptitude does not have Super Cow Powers. $ aptitude moo There are no Easter Eggs in this program. $ aptitude -v moo There really are no Easter Eggs in this program. $ aptitude -vv moo Didn't I already tell you that there are no Easter Eggs in this program? $ aptitude -vvv moo Stop it! $ aptitude -vvvv moo Okay, okay, if I give you an Easter Egg, will you go away? $ aptitude -vvvvv moo All right, you win. /----\ -------/ \ / \ / | -----------------/ --------\ ---------------------------------------------- $ aptitude -vvvvvv moo What is it? It's an elephant being eaten by a snake, of course.
lukan 2y ago
Would you still think it is art, if you would have been the one to stay up late at night, fixing some mysterious bug, that turned out to be a joke?
- eptcyka 2y ago
  What specifically can this particular easter egg do to keep people up at night? If this easter egg breaks anything, I feel like the underlying issue is not the easter egg itself.
  - lukan 2y ago
    The top comment seems like a real story here, about what can happen, if you expect a time, but don't get a time. The last thing you usually suspect, is that the system call is wrong. So you spend a lot of time investigating everything else. I like a good prank - they usually work by the prankster being around and ready to step in, if the joke goes too far. Not what happens, if you deploy the prank worldwide. There are worse things for sure, but still this is not something I can applaud. I wasted too much time on other useless shit. so I would likely not be amused having my time wasted some more by someone thinking he is funny.
    - eptcyka 2y ago
      What time? What are you on about? The easter egg is invoked when man is invoked without arguments.
      - lukan 2y ago
        Then I might have missinterpreted the comment and issue.
        eptcyka 2y ago
        There was a bug where it was also invoked when using the `-w` argument.
- dijit 2y ago
  yes, I would have had a chuckle. And truthfully, a consistent repeatable bug, in software intended for human consumption (man in shell scripts would be at least a little weird, like vim in shell scripts) is not so bad really. And midnight isnt so late, I have a heritage of systems administration, all kinds of things happen at 3-4am; its a good feeling to debug and prevent them.
  - lukan 2y ago
    I like working up late at night as well, but if the kids wake me up in the morning anyway, I don't want the night work to have been useless and avoidable.
- mistercheph 2y ago
  Yes, I’d probably laugh too. A person who becomes miserable because of a joke that unintentionally misdirects their task for the day, has mostly miserable days, and resents the world for every ounce of joy contained in it; and spills the bile in their heart back out as revenge for their daily suffering.
  - lukan 2y ago
    Yes, there are people who have mostly miserable days. Do you think, they deserve even more misery, by wasting them even one further day, that could have become a joy otherwise? How could they find joy with such a joke?
    - mistercheph 2y ago
      Can't help them, why worry about trying to make people who have chosen unhappiness happy? Leave them behind
ozim 2y ago
There are places where you can do art and places where there is no place for it. You can spray paint railway infrastructure - you still will be chased out and even might get shot at. If you do the same on random wall in the park you might at worst be scolded by someone and be chased out by police but most likely not shot at. Basic OS tools like man are more like railway infrastructure. So for me Easter eggs belong in games or something like restaurant web site or online forum like hn.
- samatman 2y ago
  The railway is entitled to paint its property however it wants to. By that logic, the maintainers of man, who hold the copyright, and merely license it to you, have the same right. Don't like it? They were generous enough to release it under terms where you can compile a fork without the joke in it. Apparently they decided that being harassed by humorless scolds was more hassle than just removing the joke. Many such cases. But it also sucks. Steamrolling all the whimsy out of FOSS sucks. Everyone who takes umbrage at whimsy and easter eggs, hassling maintainers about it, is a thief of joy.
  - ozim 2y ago
    My argument is about “art” and then making an excuse that one can do everything because otherwise he is a boring dolldrum and thief of joy. It is also the same on HN if you make “witty comment” you are going to be sent back to Reddit so is HN community thief of joy and bunch of dolldrums? I guess not - but also not every easter egg is art and most are not and one we are discussing is pretty much “go on Reddit with that” level of art.

Easter eggs are joie de vivre character against the tyranny of mediocre, boring doldrums and people who suck the life and joy out of everything cool and interesting, or can't grok art.

amiga386 2y ago

I agree. Also, Debian agrees, this is one of their most fundamental and important tools: $ apt | tail -1 This APT has Super Cow Powers. $ apt moo (__) (oo) /------\/ / | || * /\---/\ ~~ ~~ ..."Have you mooed today?"... Also, aptitude: $ aptitude --help | tail -1 This aptitude does not have Super Cow Powers. $ aptitude moo There are no Easter Eggs in this program. $ aptitude -v moo There really are no Easter Eggs in this program. $ aptitude -vv moo Didn't I already tell you that there are no Easter Eggs in this program? $ aptitude -vvv moo Stop it! $ aptitude -vvvv moo Okay, okay, if I give you an Easter Egg, will you go away? $ aptitude -vvvvv moo All right, you win. /----\ -------/ \ / \ / | -----------------/ --------\ ---------------------------------------------- $ aptitude -vvvvvv moo What is it? It's an elephant being eaten by a snake, of course.

lukan 2y ago

Would you still think it is art, if you would have been the one to stay up late at night, fixing some mysterious bug, that turned out to be a joke?

eptcyka 2y ago
What specifically can this particular easter egg do to keep people up at night? If this easter egg breaks anything, I feel like the underlying issue is not the easter egg itself.
- lukan 2y ago
  The top comment seems like a real story here, about what can happen, if you expect a time, but don't get a time. The last thing you usually suspect, is that the system call is wrong. So you spend a lot of time investigating everything else. I like a good prank - they usually work by the prankster being around and ready to step in, if the joke goes too far. Not what happens, if you deploy the prank worldwide. There are worse things for sure, but still this is not something I can applaud. I wasted too much time on other useless shit. so I would likely not be amused having my time wasted some more by someone thinking he is funny.
  - eptcyka 2y ago
    What time? What are you on about? The easter egg is invoked when man is invoked without arguments.
    - lukan 2y ago
      Then I might have missinterpreted the comment and issue.
      - eptcyka 2y ago
        There was a bug where it was also invoked when using the `-w` argument.
dijit 2y ago
yes, I would have had a chuckle. And truthfully, a consistent repeatable bug, in software intended for human consumption (man in shell scripts would be at least a little weird, like vim in shell scripts) is not so bad really. And midnight isnt so late, I have a heritage of systems administration, all kinds of things happen at 3-4am; its a good feeling to debug and prevent them.
- lukan 2y ago
  I like working up late at night as well, but if the kids wake me up in the morning anyway, I don't want the night work to have been useless and avoidable.
mistercheph 2y ago
Yes, I’d probably laugh too. A person who becomes miserable because of a joke that unintentionally misdirects their task for the day, has mostly miserable days, and resents the world for every ounce of joy contained in it; and spills the bile in their heart back out as revenge for their daily suffering.
- lukan 2y ago
  Yes, there are people who have mostly miserable days. Do you think, they deserve even more misery, by wasting them even one further day, that could have become a joy otherwise? How could they find joy with such a joke?
  - mistercheph 2y ago
    Can't help them, why worry about trying to make people who have chosen unhappiness happy? Leave them behind

ozim 2y ago

There are places where you can do art and places where there is no place for it. You can spray paint railway infrastructure - you still will be chased out and even might get shot at. If you do the same on random wall in the park you might at worst be scolded by someone and be chased out by police but most likely not shot at. Basic OS tools like man are more like railway infrastructure. So for me Easter eggs belong in games or something like restaurant web site or online forum like hn.

samatman 2y ago
The railway is entitled to paint its property however it wants to. By that logic, the maintainers of man, who hold the copyright, and merely license it to you, have the same right. Don't like it? They were generous enough to release it under terms where you can compile a fork without the joke in it. Apparently they decided that being harassed by humorless scolds was more hassle than just removing the joke. Many such cases. But it also sucks. Steamrolling all the whimsy out of FOSS sucks. Everyone who takes umbrage at whimsy and easter eggs, hassling maintainers about it, is a thief of joy.
- ozim 2y ago
  My argument is about “art” and then making an excuse that one can do everything because otherwise he is a boring dolldrum and thief of joy. It is also the same on HN if you make “witty comment” you are going to be sent back to Reddit so is HN community thief of joy and bunch of dolldrums? I guess not - but also not every easter egg is art and most are not and one we are discussing is pretty much “go on Reddit with that” level of art.