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I guessed when psmiths mentioned Arcadia, they were thinking of the Illyrians.. for the Greeks before PII were a thalassocracy/machy [can we compare sarissa to

I guessed when psmiths mentioned Arcadia, they were thinking of the Illyrians.. for the Greeks before PII were a thalassocracy/machy [can we compare sarissa to Swiss pike] And then there were the Habsburgs.. In your locality, are there no (nonplains-derived, eg not Monts+Caps of Ephesus) fairy tales of dynastic feuds? Valleys have always been fertile, livestock abundant ( so that driving term high enough to avert fratricide/eternal war with the eastern barbarians)? Northern thais didnt discover grazing/lactose until 1970s, and then ofc appalachia/scottish notterriblelands [https://en.wikipedia.com/wiki/Badlands#Etymology https://en.wikipedia.com/wiki/Badlands#Etymology] Q: what shape are the castles in Castalia, if Castalia itself is in the form of a tower — ofc i will relate to the general structure of polynesia :) Lowland cogniappe https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41725625 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41725625 Slavic muxa <-> lowland austrian/schwabian mugge <-/-> (??) maggot

aebtebeten 2y ago
At first there were the Habsburgs — "and then there were none". livestock raiding + pikes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cattle_raiding#/media/File:Schwäbischer_Bund_Luzerner_Schilling.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cattle_raiding#/media/File:Sch... (local on local domestic* feuds are well attested, both in legend and in architecture, but very little gets built these days with defensibility as a prime consideration) I'll have to reread, but (having just arisen this morning) even caucasians were known for their feuds: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vainakh_tower_architecture https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vainakh_tower_architecture As a prediction before checking the etymology, I'll bet Муха/Mücke goes back all the way to PIE: one of the benefits of sitting around the campfire (attested!) for getting high (attested!) and gossiping about body counts (attested!) is that it tends to discourage insects (is this attested?) RCH as a measurement unit seems to have been derived from a more humanistic tradition, however. * international mixups ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eePHXDl0Pjc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eePHXDl0Pjc ) mostly ended when the poverty did, although I note that just this summer I saw a job posting for international development work that required either small arms certification or the equivalent army service. A colleague in KFOR tried to convince me, around the turn of the century, that vacationing where he'd served was great; I was almost ready to believe him until he started listing the "simple" rules for avoiding likely minefields.
- gradschoolfail 2y ago
  It does, but imho the interesting part is the usage divergence , mosquito (midge?) vs fly (dialectal vs std german) Thx for the raiding article, all the forexes in one place :) And dont forget the (old) florentine skyscrapers, derived from germanic feuds? (G+G)
  - aebtebeten 2y ago
    true, the good old HRE, which was none of the three... incidentally, while looking for NdBdM's foxes and lions, I ran into something else: when I'd bounced off of Moldbug, there was one thing that seemed to be an actual claim, and not just vibe: that neo-nazis don't ever go around saying that the historical Nazis had just implemented it wrong; they weren't doing true Nazism. At the time, I couldn't think of any counterexamples, but I've recently learned Leo Strauss is one: https://balkin.blogspot.com/2006/07/letter_16.html#:~:text=the%20fact%20that,the%20shabby%20abomination%2e https://balkin.blogspot.com/2006/07/letter_16.html#:~:text=t... It was only 1933, and I only have it in translation, but still: he seems to me to be claiming to intend to argue that the historical Nazis were not behaving according to true "fascist, authoritarian, and imperial principles"?
    - gradschoolfail 2y ago
      Moldbug.. i was going to point you at Marinetti, to see if he might provoke the same reactions.. (inconsistent viber, fraternized with Fascists, but really into educating the masses?) Flies vs mosquitoes: flies are sometimes presented as a source of harmless comedy (maggots as medicine), but genocide (latinate vibes?) is acceptable for mosquitoes.
      - 082349872349872 2y ago
        Let me know when Moldbug has a cookbook: https://archive.org/details/marinetti-la-cucina-futurista-1932/page/231/mode/1up https://archive.org/details/marinetti-la-cucina-futurista-19... Come to think of it, Marinetti may not have reached the heights himself, but we should give him credit for the assist[0]: not only Mayakovsky, but also Gibson[1,2]. For that matter, does Marinetti's habit of prefixing with aero- and claiming everything goes better with aluminium presage recent years' habit of suffixing with -coin and claiming everything goes better with AI? Mozzies bite, which regular flies don't. But was the blue tail fly another example of "let's you and him fight"? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCMCKhMsSjo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCMCKhMsSjo [0] funny that games like LoL give explicit credit for the assist but the popular view of mathematics ignores that factor? the link of a node, in graphspeak? [1] even echoing down to Shnur & Glukoza: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuHbs3306RI&t=121s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuHbs3306RI&t=121s (russians love their chemistry references? is the city in the later flashback supposed to be marina bay Singapore?) [2] and while Gibson concerns himself with "high tech low life" (a cyberpunk chengyu?), he explicitly leaves a place in his world which is the equivalent of Huxley's BNW islands; the rich kids are up in the orbital colonies: https://nss.org/wp-content/uploads/Bernal_Interior_AC76-0628_5716-scaled.jpg https://nss.org/wp-content/uploads/Bernal_Interior_AC76-0628... EDIT: or a kid's book: https://www.amazon.com/Dubbie-Double-Headed-Eagle-Eduard-Habsburg-Lothringen/dp/1987970209/ https://www.amazon.com/Dubbie-Double-Headed-Eagle-Eduard-Hab... (and there's kind of a horseshoe thing going on: the few high tend to be foxes, because keeping the many middle lions in check can't be done by force, but the even more numerous low have their own trickster gods [El-ahrairah, wily Odysseus, etc.] because the low of course never have force, but might've been naturally endowed with guile — the signifying monkey, lion, and elephant are simpler, with 3 actors, than the 4 actors of slave, master, blue tail fly, and horse)

aebtebeten 2y ago

At first there were the Habsburgs — "and then there were none". livestock raiding + pikes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cattle_raiding#/media/File:Schwäbischer_Bund_Luzerner_Schilling.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cattle_raiding#/media/File:Sch... (local on local domestic* feuds are well attested, both in legend and in architecture, but very little gets built these days with defensibility as a prime consideration) I'll have to reread, but (having just arisen this morning) even caucasians were known for their feuds: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vainakh_tower_architecture https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vainakh_tower_architecture As a prediction before checking the etymology, I'll bet Муха/Mücke goes back all the way to PIE: one of the benefits of sitting around the campfire (attested!) for getting high (attested!) and gossiping about body counts (attested!) is that it tends to discourage insects (is this attested?) RCH as a measurement unit seems to have been derived from a more humanistic tradition, however. * international mixups ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eePHXDl0Pjc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eePHXDl0Pjc ) mostly ended when the poverty did, although I note that just this summer I saw a job posting for international development work that required either small arms certification or the equivalent army service. A colleague in KFOR tried to convince me, around the turn of the century, that vacationing where he'd served was great; I was almost ready to believe him until he started listing the "simple" rules for avoiding likely minefields.

gradschoolfail 2y ago
It does, but imho the interesting part is the usage divergence , mosquito (midge?) vs fly (dialectal vs std german) Thx for the raiding article, all the forexes in one place :) And dont forget the (old) florentine skyscrapers, derived from germanic feuds? (G+G)
- aebtebeten 2y ago
  true, the good old HRE, which was none of the three... incidentally, while looking for NdBdM's foxes and lions, I ran into something else: when I'd bounced off of Moldbug, there was one thing that seemed to be an actual claim, and not just vibe: that neo-nazis don't ever go around saying that the historical Nazis had just implemented it wrong; they weren't doing true Nazism. At the time, I couldn't think of any counterexamples, but I've recently learned Leo Strauss is one: https://balkin.blogspot.com/2006/07/letter_16.html#:~:text=the%20fact%20that,the%20shabby%20abomination%2e https://balkin.blogspot.com/2006/07/letter_16.html#:~:text=t... It was only 1933, and I only have it in translation, but still: he seems to me to be claiming to intend to argue that the historical Nazis were not behaving according to true "fascist, authoritarian, and imperial principles"?
  - gradschoolfail 2y ago
    Moldbug.. i was going to point you at Marinetti, to see if he might provoke the same reactions.. (inconsistent viber, fraternized with Fascists, but really into educating the masses?) Flies vs mosquitoes: flies are sometimes presented as a source of harmless comedy (maggots as medicine), but genocide (latinate vibes?) is acceptable for mosquitoes.
    - 082349872349872 2y ago
      Let me know when Moldbug has a cookbook: https://archive.org/details/marinetti-la-cucina-futurista-1932/page/231/mode/1up https://archive.org/details/marinetti-la-cucina-futurista-19... Come to think of it, Marinetti may not have reached the heights himself, but we should give him credit for the assist[0]: not only Mayakovsky, but also Gibson[1,2]. For that matter, does Marinetti's habit of prefixing with aero- and claiming everything goes better with aluminium presage recent years' habit of suffixing with -coin and claiming everything goes better with AI? Mozzies bite, which regular flies don't. But was the blue tail fly another example of "let's you and him fight"? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCMCKhMsSjo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCMCKhMsSjo [0] funny that games like LoL give explicit credit for the assist but the popular view of mathematics ignores that factor? the link of a node, in graphspeak? [1] even echoing down to Shnur & Glukoza: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuHbs3306RI&t=121s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuHbs3306RI&t=121s (russians love their chemistry references? is the city in the later flashback supposed to be marina bay Singapore?) [2] and while Gibson concerns himself with "high tech low life" (a cyberpunk chengyu?), he explicitly leaves a place in his world which is the equivalent of Huxley's BNW islands; the rich kids are up in the orbital colonies: https://nss.org/wp-content/uploads/Bernal_Interior_AC76-0628_5716-scaled.jpg https://nss.org/wp-content/uploads/Bernal_Interior_AC76-0628... EDIT: or a kid's book: https://www.amazon.com/Dubbie-Double-Headed-Eagle-Eduard-Habsburg-Lothringen/dp/1987970209/ https://www.amazon.com/Dubbie-Double-Headed-Eagle-Eduard-Hab... (and there's kind of a horseshoe thing going on: the few high tend to be foxes, because keeping the many middle lions in check can't be done by force, but the even more numerous low have their own trickster gods [El-ahrairah, wily Odysseus, etc.] because the low of course never have force, but might've been naturally endowed with guile — the signifying monkey, lion, and elephant are simpler, with 3 actors, than the 4 actors of slave, master, blue tail fly, and horse)