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It is marketing on the back of a natural disaster. Again, a nice gesture is actual charity, not a “the first month is free” promotional cliche.

by svnt 2y ago

inemesitaffia 2y ago
It's actual charity addressing a particular expressed and asked for need. Someone who had dishes asked for this. It's not a wouldn't this be nice gift. Someone needed this enough to ask for this
- svnt 2y ago
  Ok, I went and looked and the free 30-day trial was already in place weeks before the natural disaster: https://www.cnet.com/home/internet/starlink-internet-review/ https://www.cnet.com/home/internet/starlink-internet-review/ They didn’t do anything but offer the same deal they would to anyone else.
  - inemesitaffia 2y ago
    You don't know what you're talking about because you're not familiar with the service. That's a 30 day trial where you pay for the product and service in full and get a full refund if you don't like it. It's nothing like what's being offered right now where people are complaining about activation issues and the service just works. Usually you get an hour free on new devices. Now it's 30 days
    - seadan83 2y ago
      Your response here would have been stronger had you skipped the first paragraph, a shallow dismissal. Calm down. Details on the differences is illuminating, the "you don't know what you are talking about" is unhelpful.
      - inemesitaffia 2y ago
        Well right now if you happen to have a receiver and turn it on it will work for 30 days out of the box. Before this is was 1 hour before requiring activation
  - astroid 2y ago
    Oh wow quite the own. You really did something there. Do you mind demonstrating how you can unpackage the device and connect straight to the internet without going through the activation hurdles? If not, this is the most irrelevant piece of information you could possibly use to make your misguided point. First responders on their own volition brought StarLink terminals on site, which REQUIRE ACTIVATION regardless of the 30 days free. This activation effort was getting in the way of rescue efforts, likely due to credit card processors being wary of gift cards. They literally couldn't connect due to this barrier (which has since been removed). They removed the activation wall, and now anyone with a dish in the vicinity can connect. Do you see how that is different than buying a dish, taking it home, activating it in a safe area with an active credit card that the processor approves? And can you fathom a situation where maybe removing that activation wall will do tangible good? How can you possibly not see the difference here? Why don't you go pick up a StarLink kit, take it home and try to connect to the internet without activating it first - then come back when you have an understanding of what you are trying to explain to those who actually have used the things. Or sell your elite hax0r 0day on the dark-web for big money if you succeed. You can even cost "StarLink" or whatever evil company dared offer their gear a restocking fee when you return it out of malice or frustration. It should be a win-win if you want to stand on that point.
    - seadan83 2y ago
      Calm down Astroid please. You make good points, except the vitriol is very noisy. You can make those same points in half the text and without being mean.
      - astroid 2y ago
        Maybe stop cyber-stalking me if you don't like what I have to say?
        seadan83 2y ago
        It seems there is just a half dozen of us in the same thread now :) What you're saying has value and interest, but the delivery is violating the discussion guidelines and heading into the vitriol territory. I suspect a mod might have shadow banned a chunk of this thread now, and if not, probably should.

It is marketing on the back of a natural disaster. Again, a nice gesture is actual charity, not a “the first month is free” promotional cliche.

by svnt 2y ago

It is marketing on the back of a natural disaster. Again, a nice gesture is actual charity, not a “the first month is free” promotional cliche.

inemesitaffia 2y ago

It's actual charity addressing a particular expressed and asked for need. Someone who had dishes asked for this. It's not a wouldn't this be nice gift. Someone needed this enough to ask for this

svnt 2y ago
Ok, I went and looked and the free 30-day trial was already in place weeks before the natural disaster: https://www.cnet.com/home/internet/starlink-internet-review/ https://www.cnet.com/home/internet/starlink-internet-review/ They didn’t do anything but offer the same deal they would to anyone else.
- inemesitaffia 2y ago
  You don't know what you're talking about because you're not familiar with the service. That's a 30 day trial where you pay for the product and service in full and get a full refund if you don't like it. It's nothing like what's being offered right now where people are complaining about activation issues and the service just works. Usually you get an hour free on new devices. Now it's 30 days
  - seadan83 2y ago
    Your response here would have been stronger had you skipped the first paragraph, a shallow dismissal. Calm down. Details on the differences is illuminating, the "you don't know what you are talking about" is unhelpful.
    - inemesitaffia 2y ago
      Well right now if you happen to have a receiver and turn it on it will work for 30 days out of the box. Before this is was 1 hour before requiring activation
- astroid 2y ago
  Oh wow quite the own. You really did something there. Do you mind demonstrating how you can unpackage the device and connect straight to the internet without going through the activation hurdles? If not, this is the most irrelevant piece of information you could possibly use to make your misguided point. First responders on their own volition brought StarLink terminals on site, which REQUIRE ACTIVATION regardless of the 30 days free. This activation effort was getting in the way of rescue efforts, likely due to credit card processors being wary of gift cards. They literally couldn't connect due to this barrier (which has since been removed). They removed the activation wall, and now anyone with a dish in the vicinity can connect. Do you see how that is different than buying a dish, taking it home, activating it in a safe area with an active credit card that the processor approves? And can you fathom a situation where maybe removing that activation wall will do tangible good? How can you possibly not see the difference here? Why don't you go pick up a StarLink kit, take it home and try to connect to the internet without activating it first - then come back when you have an understanding of what you are trying to explain to those who actually have used the things. Or sell your elite hax0r 0day on the dark-web for big money if you succeed. You can even cost "StarLink" or whatever evil company dared offer their gear a restocking fee when you return it out of malice or frustration. It should be a win-win if you want to stand on that point.
  - seadan83 2y ago
    Calm down Astroid please. You make good points, except the vitriol is very noisy. You can make those same points in half the text and without being mean.
    - astroid 2y ago
      Maybe stop cyber-stalking me if you don't like what I have to say?
      - seadan83 2y ago
        It seems there is just a half dozen of us in the same thread now :) What you're saying has value and interest, but the delivery is violating the discussion guidelines and heading into the vitriol territory. I suspect a mod might have shadow banned a chunk of this thread now, and if not, probably should.