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>Despite the hate on the promo What does "hate on the promo" mean?

Spivak 2y ago
Offering a "30 day free trial" doesn't really feel like a gift as much as it's an ad for the service trying to onboard customers. It's not a bad thing per se, just kind of in poor taste.
- hshshshsvsv 2y ago
  They probably used the free trial system for a quick release instead of having to build some new system for this.
- dotnet00 2y ago
  There were just a few hours between Elon accepting to do it on X, and the update being deployed, I think they can be forgiven for not having it super polished. However, they've also explained that it's 30 days for now, as the end of that approaches, they'll re-evaluate to see if an extension is warranted. I recall them also mentioning refunds or maybe account credits for affected people if they've happened to pay already.
- seadan83 2y ago
  I agree. Giving the equipment out for free*, 30 days free, and no return charge would smell of true disaster relief rather than promo. * perhaps equipment charge after 30 days, or a half off on the equipment after 30 days. Those would very feel reasonable.
  - seadan83 2y ago
    I have learned now from other replies that there is a free return. 2 of 3 criteria I stipulated are met. Units being donated meets the first criteria, though that still relies on a donation. The logistics of returning the equipment is then also complicated too..
  - mlindner 2y ago
    The equipment is properly free for many people and many people had previously bought it for backup.
    - seadan83 2y ago
      > The equipment is properly free for many people I'm curious how do you know this exactly, and how many is many?
      - inemesitaffia 2y ago
        There's people paying for it, the people using it are using it for free
        seadan83 2y ago
        Respectfully, that does not answer either question.
        inemesitaffia 2y ago
        I've seen people distributing it. Like this https://x.com/TheShawnHendrix/status/1844812943529254942 https://x.com/TheShawnHendrix/status/1844812943529254942 https://x.com/WorldMobileTeam/status/1844858574737961241 https://x.com/WorldMobileTeam/status/1844858574737961241 https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1843039646235635868 https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1843039646235635868 https://x.com/elonmusk/status/184120713742013254 https://x.com/elonmusk/status/184120713742013254 https://x.com/DrPhil/status/1843840218614640687 https://x.com/DrPhil/status/1843840218614640687 https://x.com/Unitedcajunnavy/status/1843985998721524222 https://x.com/Unitedcajunnavy/status/1843985998721524222 And of course, there's FEMA
        seadan83 2y ago
        The musk link gave a "please retry", I was unable to read it. Some of the links felt a bit like puff pieces and none quite helped. The cajun navy link clarified free of service cost to users - but that was not my intended question. You said the equipment is properly free. To clarify, are you referring to end users, or free to those delivering the equipment to begin with? My impression was the latter. In which case I wanted to know how you knew that, and what exactoy was "many". My question was not: how many people are using starlink devices for free? My apologies if that seemed like that was the question I was asking. Perhaps I misunderstood what you meant by "it is properly free" (which I interpreted as spaceX giving the equipment away)
numpad0 2y ago
Likelihood of word "hate" appearing in musk-related topics is beyond sus

Offering a "30 day free trial" doesn't really feel like a gift as much as it's an ad for the service trying to onboard customers. It's not a bad thing per se, just kind of in poor taste.

hshshshsvsv 2y ago
They probably used the free trial system for a quick release instead of having to build some new system for this.
dotnet00 2y ago
There were just a few hours between Elon accepting to do it on X, and the update being deployed, I think they can be forgiven for not having it super polished. However, they've also explained that it's 30 days for now, as the end of that approaches, they'll re-evaluate to see if an extension is warranted. I recall them also mentioning refunds or maybe account credits for affected people if they've happened to pay already.
seadan83 2y ago
I agree. Giving the equipment out for free*, 30 days free, and no return charge would smell of true disaster relief rather than promo. * perhaps equipment charge after 30 days, or a half off on the equipment after 30 days. Those would very feel reasonable.
- seadan83 2y ago
  I have learned now from other replies that there is a free return. 2 of 3 criteria I stipulated are met. Units being donated meets the first criteria, though that still relies on a donation. The logistics of returning the equipment is then also complicated too..
- mlindner 2y ago
  The equipment is properly free for many people and many people had previously bought it for backup.
  - seadan83 2y ago
    > The equipment is properly free for many people I'm curious how do you know this exactly, and how many is many?
    - inemesitaffia 2y ago
      There's people paying for it, the people using it are using it for free
      - seadan83 2y ago
        Respectfully, that does not answer either question.
        inemesitaffia 2y ago
        I've seen people distributing it. Like this https://x.com/TheShawnHendrix/status/1844812943529254942 https://x.com/TheShawnHendrix/status/1844812943529254942 https://x.com/WorldMobileTeam/status/1844858574737961241 https://x.com/WorldMobileTeam/status/1844858574737961241 https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1843039646235635868 https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1843039646235635868 https://x.com/elonmusk/status/184120713742013254 https://x.com/elonmusk/status/184120713742013254 https://x.com/DrPhil/status/1843840218614640687 https://x.com/DrPhil/status/1843840218614640687 https://x.com/Unitedcajunnavy/status/1843985998721524222 https://x.com/Unitedcajunnavy/status/1843985998721524222 And of course, there's FEMA
        seadan83 2y ago
        The musk link gave a "please retry", I was unable to read it. Some of the links felt a bit like puff pieces and none quite helped. The cajun navy link clarified free of service cost to users - but that was not my intended question. You said the equipment is properly free. To clarify, are you referring to end users, or free to those delivering the equipment to begin with? My impression was the latter. In which case I wanted to know how you knew that, and what exactoy was "many". My question was not: how many people are using starlink devices for free? My apologies if that seemed like that was the question I was asking. Perhaps I misunderstood what you meant by "it is properly free" (which I interpreted as spaceX giving the equipment away)

numpad0 2y ago

Likelihood of word "hate" appearing in musk-related topics is beyond sus