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Dance is very Gemeinschaft: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gemeinschaft_and_Gesellschaft https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gemeinschaft_and_Gesellschaft > singing i

Dance is very Gemeinschaft: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gemeinschaft_and_Gesellschaft https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gemeinschaft_and_Gesellschaft > singing in harmony would work too I believe at least some Amish sing at very low BPM. Two possible interpretations: (a) they share the opinions of Baptists when it comes to dancing, so the BPM is deliberately so low as to be clearly undanceable, and (b) at normal BPM individual participants might just be staying in rhythm, low BPM requires close attentiveness to the whole to stay together.

gradschoolfail 2y ago
Max Damien’s Riverian monologue: >>Gemeinsamkeit<< (usually translated to English as neither C nor S) (Also contrasted with Gesangverein)
- 082349872349872 2y ago
  From reading HN, it sounds as if many (at least among the terminally online?) in the Old Country could stand to verbesser their Vereinsleben*. When speaking with colleagues and friends still in the Old Country, depending upon whether I wish to shock (or not), I decide between saying I live (in a Gemeinde) or in a commune. Lagniappe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKIaS0lh-uo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKIaS0lh-uo * that said, tinder is still incredibly popular here; kids these days! EDIT: one notes the legacy of the pike square in that one can still hear cries of "close ranks! close ranks!" in the village square — but these days it's used to mean "scoot over a little on the party benches so the late arrivals can fit in": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ls4eU3txvFI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ls4eU3txvFI
  - gradschoolfail 2y ago
    To riff on the risque, I advertise [if forex, SPJ is allowed these days to be remembered for idealizing the shitting of pants..] the idea of experts’ pants as a a commodity to die metaphorically for (With the caveat that some might enjoy seeing instead what the experts are hiding when the tide [of fashion] goes out) (& one can e.g. with this explain, with mauvaise foi, Hipour’s smile)
    - aebtebeten 2y ago
      Shirts are topologically indistinguishable from crotchless pants; do we have a metric here? https://www.thepsmiths.com/p/review-scaling-people-by-claire-hughes https://www.thepsmiths.com/p/review-scaling-people-by-claire... goes into the differences between (in 1984 terms) inner- and outer-party expertise (aka foxes and lions? psychopaths and clueless? morlocks and eloi?). Yeah, when you've already known since ever to discount the wandering ones, what're a few more transients* to ignore? :) Lagniappe: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molniya_orbit https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molniya_orbit [could a signifyin' fox pass for a lion? someday I need to track down RvRG, Ich, Claudius, Kaiser und Gott] * but if you can control transients, mode switching is an excellent way to rummage around under the noise floorboards for signal. (somewhere there's an XKCD about limitations of earth observation that was way too optimistic, and already had been for however long we'd had structured shutters)
      - gradschoolfail 2y ago
        Below the waterline? (Waistline if less charitable) Ah havent read this article yet but anticipating “insider” as a more distinguishing term than “experts” should cover their edge cases (Which secrets are shameful to share vs merely uh inconvenient, e.g. for waistline, depends on how you draw the party lines, some do it at type ii “zahlungsfaehig” vs “proleten” as nsdap apparently another eg, for waterline) [do you have a fictional character for each of sigfox & lion?] So, where is the line for YC?
        aebtebeten 2y ago
        My bad: I got the fox and lion analogy wrong. (NdBdM apparently said the prince ought to be able to be both fox and lion; like HKH had both Knecht and Designori? What about Tito? "The lion cannot protect himself from traps, and the fox cannot defend himself from wolves. One must therefore be a fox to recognize traps, and a lion to frighten wolves." [not yet checked for context/translation]) Sorry, I'd been too quick to assume it fit nicely in with our early tripartitions, based on some blogiating that I'm not finding in my verlauf at the moment. So I'd been imagining TCCAG (in Graves' telling), d-d-disguising himself as one of the clueless, in order to survive the machinations of the psychopaths that had killed off every other male in his family: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julio-Claudian_family_tree#Simplified https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julio-Claudian_family_tree#Sim... Found it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circulation_of_elites#Governing_elite https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circulation_of_elites#Governin... ; it must've been the Burnham connection that set me off on 1984 and then to Rao. Note that here the foxes and lions are distinct people; hence my confusion. EDIT: Pareto definitely thinks of foxes and lions as distinct, but he must've introduced them somewhat earlier than §2178 (The Mind and Society/The General Form of Society/Force and Class-circulation): https://archive.org/details/ParetoTheMindAndSocietyVol4TheGeneralFormOfSociety/Pareto%20-%20The%20Mind%20and%20Society%20Vol%204%3B%20The%20General%20Form%20of%20Society/page/n96/mode/1up https://archive.org/details/ParetoTheMindAndSocietyVol4TheGe...

gradschoolfail 2y ago

Max Damien’s Riverian monologue: >>Gemeinsamkeit<< (usually translated to English as neither C nor S) (Also contrasted with Gesangverein)

082349872349872 2y ago
From reading HN, it sounds as if many (at least among the terminally online?) in the Old Country could stand to verbesser their Vereinsleben*. When speaking with colleagues and friends still in the Old Country, depending upon whether I wish to shock (or not), I decide between saying I live (in a Gemeinde) or in a commune. Lagniappe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKIaS0lh-uo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKIaS0lh-uo * that said, tinder is still incredibly popular here; kids these days! EDIT: one notes the legacy of the pike square in that one can still hear cries of "close ranks! close ranks!" in the village square — but these days it's used to mean "scoot over a little on the party benches so the late arrivals can fit in": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ls4eU3txvFI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ls4eU3txvFI
- gradschoolfail 2y ago
  To riff on the risque, I advertise [if forex, SPJ is allowed these days to be remembered for idealizing the shitting of pants..] the idea of experts’ pants as a a commodity to die metaphorically for (With the caveat that some might enjoy seeing instead what the experts are hiding when the tide [of fashion] goes out) (& one can e.g. with this explain, with mauvaise foi, Hipour’s smile)
  - aebtebeten 2y ago
    Shirts are topologically indistinguishable from crotchless pants; do we have a metric here? https://www.thepsmiths.com/p/review-scaling-people-by-claire-hughes https://www.thepsmiths.com/p/review-scaling-people-by-claire... goes into the differences between (in 1984 terms) inner- and outer-party expertise (aka foxes and lions? psychopaths and clueless? morlocks and eloi?). Yeah, when you've already known since ever to discount the wandering ones, what're a few more transients* to ignore? :) Lagniappe: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molniya_orbit https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molniya_orbit [could a signifyin' fox pass for a lion? someday I need to track down RvRG, Ich, Claudius, Kaiser und Gott] * but if you can control transients, mode switching is an excellent way to rummage around under the noise floorboards for signal. (somewhere there's an XKCD about limitations of earth observation that was way too optimistic, and already had been for however long we'd had structured shutters)
    - gradschoolfail 2y ago
      Below the waterline? (Waistline if less charitable) Ah havent read this article yet but anticipating “insider” as a more distinguishing term than “experts” should cover their edge cases (Which secrets are shameful to share vs merely uh inconvenient, e.g. for waistline, depends on how you draw the party lines, some do it at type ii “zahlungsfaehig” vs “proleten” as nsdap apparently another eg, for waterline) [do you have a fictional character for each of sigfox & lion?] So, where is the line for YC?
      - aebtebeten 2y ago
        My bad: I got the fox and lion analogy wrong. (NdBdM apparently said the prince ought to be able to be both fox and lion; like HKH had both Knecht and Designori? What about Tito? "The lion cannot protect himself from traps, and the fox cannot defend himself from wolves. One must therefore be a fox to recognize traps, and a lion to frighten wolves." [not yet checked for context/translation]) Sorry, I'd been too quick to assume it fit nicely in with our early tripartitions, based on some blogiating that I'm not finding in my verlauf at the moment. So I'd been imagining TCCAG (in Graves' telling), d-d-disguising himself as one of the clueless, in order to survive the machinations of the psychopaths that had killed off every other male in his family: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julio-Claudian_family_tree#Simplified https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julio-Claudian_family_tree#Sim... Found it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circulation_of_elites#Governing_elite https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circulation_of_elites#Governin... ; it must've been the Burnham connection that set me off on 1984 and then to Rao. Note that here the foxes and lions are distinct people; hence my confusion. EDIT: Pareto definitely thinks of foxes and lions as distinct, but he must've introduced them somewhat earlier than §2178 (The Mind and Society/The General Form of Society/Force and Class-circulation): https://archive.org/details/ParetoTheMindAndSocietyVol4TheGeneralFormOfSociety/Pareto%20-%20The%20Mind%20and%20Society%20Vol%204%3B%20The%20General%20Form%20of%20Society/page/n96/mode/1up https://archive.org/details/ParetoTheMindAndSocietyVol4TheGe...