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Yeah I believe that our brains are extremely sensitive to shared experience, work, art, movement or else (singing in harmony would work too). It might even tap

Yeah I believe that our brains are extremely sensitive to shared experience, work, art, movement or else (singing in harmony would work too). It might even tap in primitive toddler brain phases.

uoaei 2y ago
There's thousands of years of human societal development, and millions of years for mammals. Hard to believe we'd learned nothing about promoting social cohesion during that time.
- agumonkey 2y ago
  Somehow I believe that the last decades (and post 2010s even worse) completely altered our notion of social-ness. We're running away from forming groups because it has some non trivial entry cost (you have to fit with different people) and instead enjoy remote interactions with people just like "you" want, when you want.
082349872349872 2y ago
Dance is very Gemeinschaft: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gemeinschaft_and_Gesellschaft https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gemeinschaft_and_Gesellschaft > singing in harmony would work too I believe at least some Amish sing at very low BPM. Two possible interpretations: (a) they share the opinions of Baptists when it comes to dancing, so the BPM is deliberately so low as to be clearly undanceable, and (b) at normal BPM individual participants might just be staying in rhythm, low BPM requires close attentiveness to the whole to stay together.
- gradschoolfail 2y ago
  Max Damien’s Riverian monologue: >>Gemeinsamkeit<< (usually translated to English as neither C nor S) (Also contrasted with Gesangverein)
  - 082349872349872 2y ago
    From reading HN, it sounds as if many (at least among the terminally online?) in the Old Country could stand to verbesser their Vereinsleben*. When speaking with colleagues and friends still in the Old Country, depending upon whether I wish to shock (or not), I decide between saying I live (in a Gemeinde) or in a commune. Lagniappe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKIaS0lh-uo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKIaS0lh-uo * that said, tinder is still incredibly popular here; kids these days! EDIT: one notes the legacy of the pike square in that one can still hear cries of "close ranks! close ranks!" in the village square — but these days it's used to mean "scoot over a little on the party benches so the late arrivals can fit in": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ls4eU3txvFI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ls4eU3txvFI
    - gradschoolfail 2y ago
      To riff on the risque, I advertise [if forex, SPJ is allowed these days to be remembered for idealizing the shitting of pants..] the idea of experts’ pants as a a commodity to die metaphorically for (With the caveat that some might enjoy seeing instead what the experts are hiding when the tide [of fashion] goes out) (& one can e.g. with this explain, with mauvaise foi, Hipour’s smile)
      - aebtebeten 2y ago
        Shirts are topologically indistinguishable from crotchless pants; do we have a metric here? https://www.thepsmiths.com/p/review-scaling-people-by-claire-hughes https://www.thepsmiths.com/p/review-scaling-people-by-claire... goes into the differences between (in 1984 terms) inner- and outer-party expertise (aka foxes and lions? psychopaths and clueless? morlocks and eloi?). Yeah, when you've already known since ever to discount the wandering ones, what're a few more transients* to ignore? :) Lagniappe: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molniya_orbit https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molniya_orbit [could a signifyin' fox pass for a lion? someday I need to track down RvRG, Ich, Claudius, Kaiser und Gott] * but if you can control transients, mode switching is an excellent way to rummage around under the noise floorboards for signal. (somewhere there's an XKCD about limitations of earth observation that was way too optimistic, and already had been for however long we'd had structured shutters)

Yeah I believe that our brains are extremely sensitive to shared experience, work, art, movement or else (singing in harmony would work too). It might even tap in primitive toddler brain phases.

uoaei 2y ago

There's thousands of years of human societal development, and millions of years for mammals. Hard to believe we'd learned nothing about promoting social cohesion during that time.

agumonkey 2y ago
Somehow I believe that the last decades (and post 2010s even worse) completely altered our notion of social-ness. We're running away from forming groups because it has some non trivial entry cost (you have to fit with different people) and instead enjoy remote interactions with people just like "you" want, when you want.

082349872349872 2y ago

Dance is very Gemeinschaft: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gemeinschaft_and_Gesellschaft https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gemeinschaft_and_Gesellschaft > singing in harmony would work too I believe at least some Amish sing at very low BPM. Two possible interpretations: (a) they share the opinions of Baptists when it comes to dancing, so the BPM is deliberately so low as to be clearly undanceable, and (b) at normal BPM individual participants might just be staying in rhythm, low BPM requires close attentiveness to the whole to stay together.

gradschoolfail 2y ago
Max Damien’s Riverian monologue: >>Gemeinsamkeit<< (usually translated to English as neither C nor S) (Also contrasted with Gesangverein)
- 082349872349872 2y ago
  From reading HN, it sounds as if many (at least among the terminally online?) in the Old Country could stand to verbesser their Vereinsleben*. When speaking with colleagues and friends still in the Old Country, depending upon whether I wish to shock (or not), I decide between saying I live (in a Gemeinde) or in a commune. Lagniappe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKIaS0lh-uo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKIaS0lh-uo * that said, tinder is still incredibly popular here; kids these days! EDIT: one notes the legacy of the pike square in that one can still hear cries of "close ranks! close ranks!" in the village square — but these days it's used to mean "scoot over a little on the party benches so the late arrivals can fit in": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ls4eU3txvFI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ls4eU3txvFI
  - gradschoolfail 2y ago
    To riff on the risque, I advertise [if forex, SPJ is allowed these days to be remembered for idealizing the shitting of pants..] the idea of experts’ pants as a a commodity to die metaphorically for (With the caveat that some might enjoy seeing instead what the experts are hiding when the tide [of fashion] goes out) (& one can e.g. with this explain, with mauvaise foi, Hipour’s smile)
    - aebtebeten 2y ago
      Shirts are topologically indistinguishable from crotchless pants; do we have a metric here? https://www.thepsmiths.com/p/review-scaling-people-by-claire-hughes https://www.thepsmiths.com/p/review-scaling-people-by-claire... goes into the differences between (in 1984 terms) inner- and outer-party expertise (aka foxes and lions? psychopaths and clueless? morlocks and eloi?). Yeah, when you've already known since ever to discount the wandering ones, what're a few more transients* to ignore? :) Lagniappe: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molniya_orbit https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molniya_orbit [could a signifyin' fox pass for a lion? someday I need to track down RvRG, Ich, Claudius, Kaiser und Gott] * but if you can control transients, mode switching is an excellent way to rummage around under the noise floorboards for signal. (somewhere there's an XKCD about limitations of earth observation that was way too optimistic, and already had been for however long we'd had structured shutters)