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Not the same, a vacation is a vacation, most people don't think of it as people outages. Most work will just be queued up until the person comes back or worse

Not the same, a vacation is a vacation, most people don't think of it as people outages. Most work will just be queued up until the person comes back or worse the person will be contacted during vacation to answer questions, provide information or do some work. Being hyper aware of this means no contact for the individual while on vacation and watching that work is not being queued up for them. They should not have to catch up to emails and catch up to slack conversations when they get back. A return from vacation should be truly refreshing not overwhelming.

fluoridation 2y ago
Man, I hope that position pay really well for that kind of commitment. If anyone tries to reach me while I'm on vacation I will not even realize it, and I won't be bothering to "catch up" when I return.
- mystified5016 2y ago
  Then you must not have a very important job. The hypothetical person being discussed here is someone who multiple people depend on. Their work is critical to other processes and blocks other work from happening. They own a lot of institutional knowledge that may not be shared evenly among other employees. That's the point of the exercise: to identify mission critical people and make them not critical to the entire business. If your business hinges on one person who knows everything and works on everything, you're fucked if they disappear and you haven't ensured at least some redundancy.
  - flohofwoe 2y ago
    Well yeah, that's why a vacation is a good test, "important job" or not. If the person needs to respond or even check in during vacation, the team needs to fix their process.
  - fluoridation 2y ago
    The way the other person phrased it made it seem like that kind of fake vacations are the norm, which is what I was replying to. >Most work [during someone's vacation] will just be queued up until the person comes back or worse the person will be contacted during vacation to answer questions, provide information or do some work. Nothing in that sentence implies that the person is referring exclusively to an especially important position.
    - segmondy 2y ago
      You must be lucky, but most people I know and from my own experience end up replying to email, slack or phone calls while on vacation and work piles up for them relative to how long they have been away.
      - fluoridation 2y ago
        Like I said, I hope you're compensated accordingly. Off time is off time, and being on call has a price attached to it. If you're being treated like you're on call but without the corresponding pay rise, that's called wage theft.

fluoridation 2y ago

Man, I hope that position pay really well for that kind of commitment. If anyone tries to reach me while I'm on vacation I will not even realize it, and I won't be bothering to "catch up" when I return.

mystified5016 2y ago
Then you must not have a very important job. The hypothetical person being discussed here is someone who multiple people depend on. Their work is critical to other processes and blocks other work from happening. They own a lot of institutional knowledge that may not be shared evenly among other employees. That's the point of the exercise: to identify mission critical people and make them not critical to the entire business. If your business hinges on one person who knows everything and works on everything, you're fucked if they disappear and you haven't ensured at least some redundancy.
- flohofwoe 2y ago
  Well yeah, that's why a vacation is a good test, "important job" or not. If the person needs to respond or even check in during vacation, the team needs to fix their process.
- fluoridation 2y ago
  The way the other person phrased it made it seem like that kind of fake vacations are the norm, which is what I was replying to. >Most work [during someone's vacation] will just be queued up until the person comes back or worse the person will be contacted during vacation to answer questions, provide information or do some work. Nothing in that sentence implies that the person is referring exclusively to an especially important position.
  - segmondy 2y ago
    You must be lucky, but most people I know and from my own experience end up replying to email, slack or phone calls while on vacation and work piles up for them relative to how long they have been away.
    - fluoridation 2y ago
      Like I said, I hope you're compensated accordingly. Off time is off time, and being on call has a price attached to it. If you're being treated like you're on call but without the corresponding pay rise, that's called wage theft.