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No thank you. As with anything else that is helpful, there is a balancing act to be aware of. This is too much for my taste. Just like github copilot is too mu
by danielovichdk 2y ago
No thank you.
As with anything else that is helpful, there is a balancing act to be aware of. This is too much for my taste. Just like github copilot is too much.
It's too dumb like this. But chatgpt is insanely helpful in a context where I really need to learn something I am deep diving into or where I need an extra layer of direction.
I do not use the tool for coding up front. I use them for iterations on narrow subjects.
- pikseladam 2y agoi agree but it is optional
- gdhkgdhkvff 2y agoI haven’t used it yet, but couldn’t you just copy paste a chunk of existing code into canvas and have it help there? If so, that does seem more useful than the original of just pasting a lot of code into chat and hoping it pulls the correct context from your description. If I’m understanding it correctly, I’m canvas you can paste a bunch of code and then ask for help on specific contexts within the code by highlighting it. If done properly that seems super useful to me.
- atomic128 2y agoDon't fight this. Try to profit from it. People love these tools and they will become utterly, utterly dependent. Using a spell-checker, I have gradually lost my ability to spell. Using these LLM tools, large parts of the population will lose the ability to think. Try to own them like farm animals. The large number of tokens being processed by iterative models requires enormous energy. Look at the power draw of a Hopper or Blackwell GPU. The Cerebras wafer burns 23 KW. One avenue to profit is to invest in nuclear power by owning uranium. This is risky and I do not recommend it to others. See discussion here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41661768 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41661768
- acomjean 2y agoSpeaking of energy use. Microsoft is literally in talks to restart a nuclear plant where they will buy all the power[1]. It happens to be "Three Mile Island" plant [2] https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-024-03162-2 https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-024-03162-2 https://www.nrc.gov/reading-rm/doc-collections/fact-sheets/3mile-isle.html https://www.nrc.gov/reading-rm/doc-collections/fact-sheets/3...
- atomic128 2y agoThank you. Discussed in detail and at length here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41692131 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41692131
- AndyKelley 2y agoCounterpoint: don't try to own people like farm animals. Have pride in humanity, faith in your fellow man, and resist toxic cynicism.
- xp84 2y agoIf as GP says, people are actively choosing to become passive and dependent like farm animals, is it immoral to become the farmer? The alternative is to join them. It’s not in anyone’s power to force the rest of society to “be free.”
- sam29681749 2y agoWhat about the other alternative of neither farming nor joining them?
- atomic128 2y agoFortunes are made owning companies that sell harmful products. Domino's Pizza, Monster Energy Drink, etc. Fortunes will be made selling electricity to people who develop serious cognitive dependence on LLMs. There is no need for you to participate in the profits. I respect your life choices and I wish you well.
- AndyKelley 2y agoI don't respect your life choices and I wish you failure.
- satvikpendem 2y agoI had to laugh at their comments too. Well, at least they're being cynically honest.
- CamperBob2 2y agoDon't try to own uranium, either. Or if you do, don't store it all in one place.
- jakkos 2y ago> Try to own them like farm animals. Jesus christ, I hope you are never in a position of any significant power
- cvs268 2y agoWhat would Jesus do? :-) (did you just take the lord's name in vain?)
- vasco 2y ago> large parts of the population will lose the ability to think. Try to own them like farm animals. You're so edgy that you might cut yourself, be careful. What is wrong with making profit by helping people through providing a service?
- beej71 2y agoAsked Purdue Pharma... :)
- meowface 2y agoI think you should try to give tools like this another chance. If Andrej Karpathy can say AI-assisted programming is a productivity boost for him (https://x.com/karpathy/status/1827143768459637073 https://x.com/karpathy/status/1827143768459637073), it can be a productivity boost for probably any programmer.
- Workaccount2 2y agoThere are three groups of people here: 1.) Those who use AI and talk about it. 2.) Those who do not use AI and talk about it. 3.) Those who use AI and talk about how they do not and will not use AI. You don't have to look far to see how humans react to performance enhancers that aren't exactly sanctioned as OK (Steroids).
- UncleMeat 2y agoAndrej is a great communicator. I've never seen evidence that he is an especially exceptional programmer.
- meowface 2y agoThis is a ridiculous statement. It's possible he isn't an absolutely amazing programmer*, but given he's probably in the top 0.01% in terms of implementing novel (and often groundbreaking) ideas via programming and that he finds AI-assisted programming tools useful, it suggests AI-assisted programming is now more than just a CRUD code monkey assister. *(it's also possible he is)
- famouswaffles 2y agoBetween his roles at companies he's worked for, his research and his open source stuff, what else would you be looking for lol ? Remove all the educator stuff and karpathy would still be one of the most accomplished of his generation in his field. Idk just seems like a weird comment.
- UncleMeat 2y agoResearch contributions are almost entirely separate from engineering quality. This is true for the vast vast vast majority of work people do in grad school.