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Well, I've just read back through some of your comments and I say that ain't so! Write honestly. Write the way you write. Use your own flow, make your own gram

Well, I've just read back through some of your comments and I say that ain't so! Write honestly. Write the way you write. Use your own flow, make your own grammatical wobbles, whatever they are. Express yourself authentically. Don't let an AI do this to you.

meiraleal 2y ago
Person A: Me try make this code work but it always crash! maybe the server hate or i miss thing. any help? Person A with AI: I've been trying to get this code to work, but it keeps crashing. I'm not sure if I missed something or if there's an issue with the server. Any tips would be appreciated! For a non-native English speaker, it's much better professionally to use AI before sending a message than to appear authentic (which you won't in another language that you aren't fluent so better to sound robotic than write like a 10 years old kid).
- gloflo 2y ago
  Person A with AI: In the bustling world of software development, where lines of code intertwine to create the intricate tapestry of our digital lives, I find myself facing a challenge that has proven to be both perplexing and frustrating. I’ve spent over a decade honing my skills as a developer. Known for my analytical mind and commitment to excellence, I’ve navigated various programming languages, frameworks, and projects that I’m proud to have contributed to. Recently, I stumbled upon a bug that initially seemed minor but quickly revealed itself to be a formidable adversary. It disrupted the seamless user experience I had meticulously crafted, and despite my best efforts, this issue has remained elusive. Each attempt to isolate and resolve it has only led me deeper into a labyrinth of complexity, leaving me frustrated yet undeterred. Understanding that even the most seasoned developers can hit a wall, I’m reaching out for help. I’ve documented the symptoms, error messages, and my various attempts at resolution, and I’m eager to collaborate with anyone who might have insights or fresh perspectives. It’s in the spirit of community and shared knowledge that I hope to unravel this mystery and turn this challenge into an opportunity for growth.
  - throwgfgfd25 2y ago
    :-)
- Spivak 2y ago
  It's pretty good for native English speakers at work who need/want a reverse anger translator. Me: This is the most garbage code I've ever seen. It's bad and you should feel. It's not even wrong. I can't even fathom the conceptual misunderstandings that led to this. I'm going to have to rewrite the entire thing at this rate, honestly you should just try again from scratch. With AI: I've had some time to review the code you submitted and I appreciate the effort and work that went into it. I think we might have to refine some parts so that it aligns more closely with our coding standards. There are certain areas that are in need of restructuring to make sure the logic is more consistent and the flow wouldn't lead to potential issues down the road. I sympathize with the sibling comment about AI responses being overly-verbose but it's not that hard to get your model of choice to have a somewhat consistent voice. And I don't even see it as a crutch, this is just automated secretary / personal assistant for people not important enough to be worth a human. I think a lot of us on HN have had the experience of the stark contrast between comms from the CEO vs CEO as paraphrased by their assistant.
yawnxyz 2y ago
Aw thanks! I at least have the benefit of being a fluent writer. For lots of East Asian researchers it's really embarrassing for them to send an email riddled with typos, so they spend a LOT of time making their emails nice. I like that tools like this can lift their burden
- throwgfgfd25 2y ago
  > For lots of East Asian researchers it's really embarrassing for them to send an email riddled with typos, so they spend a LOT of time making their emails nice. OK -- I can see this. But I think Grammarly would be better than this.
  - asukumar 2y ago
    Grammarly uses generative AI
    - throwgfgfd25 2y ago
      It does now, perhaps, for complete rewrites. I've not looked recently. But its suggestion system, where it spots wordy patterns and suggests clearer alternatives, was available long before LLMs were the new hotness, and is considerably more nuanced (and educational). Grammarly would take apart the nonsense in that screenshot and suggest something much less "dark and stormy night".
j_maffe 2y ago
Thanks for saying this. Whenever Grammarly puts a red line under a slightly superflouos part of the sentence I get more and more agitated at this small nudging to robotic writing.
- yawnxyz 2y ago
  Grammarly thinks all writing should be bland, and that everyone needs to be a robot. Terrible product.
  - throwgfgfd25 2y ago
    But it does favour _clarity_, rather than tropes.
    - j_maffe 2y ago
      There's more to writing than clarity, though. Not all written communication needs to abide of the efficient/clear writing style of technical documentation FFS
      - throwgfgfd25 2y ago
        Sure, if you're writing a novel, maybe. But there's not much more important, stylistically, to writing an business email or document than clarity. It's absolutely the most important thing. Especially in customer communications. In the UK there is/used to be a yearly awards scheme for businesses that reject complexity in communucations for clarity: https://www.plainenglish.co.uk/services/crystal-mark.html https://www.plainenglish.co.uk/services/crystal-mark.html But anyway, you don't have to act on all the suggestions, do you? It's completely different from the idea of getting an AI to write generic, college-application-letter-from-a-CS-geek prose from your notes.
        j_maffe 2y ago
        With enough repetitive suggestions asking for the same thing, it will just continuously push your writing style towards this ultra-dry writing. Plus, even in business emails it's important to show a human side in writing. It's not like Grammarly's push for clear writing actually helps in any way. Most times it just outright suggests removing relevant info from the sentence. They just push for this service as a way to incentivise subscriptions, writing quality be damned.

meiraleal 2y ago

Person A: Me try make this code work but it always crash! maybe the server hate or i miss thing. any help? Person A with AI: I've been trying to get this code to work, but it keeps crashing. I'm not sure if I missed something or if there's an issue with the server. Any tips would be appreciated! For a non-native English speaker, it's much better professionally to use AI before sending a message than to appear authentic (which you won't in another language that you aren't fluent so better to sound robotic than write like a 10 years old kid).

gloflo 2y ago
Person A with AI: In the bustling world of software development, where lines of code intertwine to create the intricate tapestry of our digital lives, I find myself facing a challenge that has proven to be both perplexing and frustrating. I’ve spent over a decade honing my skills as a developer. Known for my analytical mind and commitment to excellence, I’ve navigated various programming languages, frameworks, and projects that I’m proud to have contributed to. Recently, I stumbled upon a bug that initially seemed minor but quickly revealed itself to be a formidable adversary. It disrupted the seamless user experience I had meticulously crafted, and despite my best efforts, this issue has remained elusive. Each attempt to isolate and resolve it has only led me deeper into a labyrinth of complexity, leaving me frustrated yet undeterred. Understanding that even the most seasoned developers can hit a wall, I’m reaching out for help. I’ve documented the symptoms, error messages, and my various attempts at resolution, and I’m eager to collaborate with anyone who might have insights or fresh perspectives. It’s in the spirit of community and shared knowledge that I hope to unravel this mystery and turn this challenge into an opportunity for growth.
- throwgfgfd25 2y ago
  :-)
Spivak 2y ago
It's pretty good for native English speakers at work who need/want a reverse anger translator. Me: This is the most garbage code I've ever seen. It's bad and you should feel. It's not even wrong. I can't even fathom the conceptual misunderstandings that led to this. I'm going to have to rewrite the entire thing at this rate, honestly you should just try again from scratch. With AI: I've had some time to review the code you submitted and I appreciate the effort and work that went into it. I think we might have to refine some parts so that it aligns more closely with our coding standards. There are certain areas that are in need of restructuring to make sure the logic is more consistent and the flow wouldn't lead to potential issues down the road. I sympathize with the sibling comment about AI responses being overly-verbose but it's not that hard to get your model of choice to have a somewhat consistent voice. And I don't even see it as a crutch, this is just automated secretary / personal assistant for people not important enough to be worth a human. I think a lot of us on HN have had the experience of the stark contrast between comms from the CEO vs CEO as paraphrased by their assistant.

yawnxyz 2y ago

Aw thanks! I at least have the benefit of being a fluent writer. For lots of East Asian researchers it's really embarrassing for them to send an email riddled with typos, so they spend a LOT of time making their emails nice. I like that tools like this can lift their burden

throwgfgfd25 2y ago
> For lots of East Asian researchers it's really embarrassing for them to send an email riddled with typos, so they spend a LOT of time making their emails nice. OK -- I can see this. But I think Grammarly would be better than this.
- asukumar 2y ago
  Grammarly uses generative AI
  - throwgfgfd25 2y ago
    It does now, perhaps, for complete rewrites. I've not looked recently. But its suggestion system, where it spots wordy patterns and suggests clearer alternatives, was available long before LLMs were the new hotness, and is considerably more nuanced (and educational). Grammarly would take apart the nonsense in that screenshot and suggest something much less "dark and stormy night".

j_maffe 2y ago

Thanks for saying this. Whenever Grammarly puts a red line under a slightly superflouos part of the sentence I get more and more agitated at this small nudging to robotic writing.

yawnxyz 2y ago
Grammarly thinks all writing should be bland, and that everyone needs to be a robot. Terrible product.
- throwgfgfd25 2y ago
  But it does favour _clarity_, rather than tropes.
  - j_maffe 2y ago
    There's more to writing than clarity, though. Not all written communication needs to abide of the efficient/clear writing style of technical documentation FFS
    - throwgfgfd25 2y ago
      Sure, if you're writing a novel, maybe. But there's not much more important, stylistically, to writing an business email or document than clarity. It's absolutely the most important thing. Especially in customer communications. In the UK there is/used to be a yearly awards scheme for businesses that reject complexity in communucations for clarity: https://www.plainenglish.co.uk/services/crystal-mark.html https://www.plainenglish.co.uk/services/crystal-mark.html But anyway, you don't have to act on all the suggestions, do you? It's completely different from the idea of getting an AI to write generic, college-application-letter-from-a-CS-geek prose from your notes.
      - j_maffe 2y ago
        With enough repetitive suggestions asking for the same thing, it will just continuously push your writing style towards this ultra-dry writing. Plus, even in business emails it's important to show a human side in writing. It's not like Grammarly's push for clear writing actually helps in any way. Most times it just outright suggests removing relevant info from the sentence. They just push for this service as a way to incentivise subscriptions, writing quality be damned.